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Old 10-07-2014, 09:07 PM
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Default 2015 Curb weights, payloads, GVWR and GAWR - 4x2 only

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/02/2...-review-video/

Autoblog posted a picture of 2015 4x2 weights including GVWR, GAWR, min Curb weights and Max payloads.




Looks like the next page has the rest of the 4x4's but it's cut off.

Anyway, the 3.5L EcoB HD Payload option numbers (there are two: 17" and 18" wheels) look good. Especially the rear GAWR is still 4800# with 18" wheel. Despite the 6 lug wheels/axles. So even more rear GAWR "headroom".

Generally 100-200# increase in payload. 500-700# drop in GVWR
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Good find, but I think payload increase is even greater than that. You can compare them on the Ford website by building a 2014 and a 2015.
4x4 GVWR are generally 100 lbs. greater than the 2x4s. SCAB would be 7000 lbs, SCREW would be 6900 lbs, and 157"/163" WB should be around 7100 lbs. w/o max payload.
Compared to the 7350 lbs GVWR of last gen, that is only about 350 lb drop in GVWR with about 350 lbs increase in payload.
The gen 12 trucks had a 7700 lbs GVWR, but as you know it is bottlenecked by RAWR. Realistic payload really was not that much greater than the standard 7350 GVWR trucks. The new 'gen 13' trucks should not have that problem.
As for the heavies, gen 12 had a GVWR of 8200 lbs. The new gen 13 trucks will be 7850 lbs. Again, 350 lb GVWR decrease, but a payload increase of 350 lbs or so.
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Originally Posted by nihilus
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The gen 12 trucks had a 7700 lbs GVWR, but as you know it is bottlenecked by RAWR. Realistic payload really was not that much greater than the standard 7350 GVWR trucks. The new 'gen 13' trucks should not have that problem.
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Not so sure about this bit for the MaxTows. (By "Gen 12" you mean the 2011-2014, right?)

My 2011 MaxTow 4x2 SCab EcoB has a 4050# rear GAWR and 7500# GVWR. And with my 1030# tongue weight and gear in the truck, I'm right at the rear GAWR limit but 200# under the GVWR. So, yes, the rear GAWR is the "bottleneck".

In 2015 MaxTow alone doesn't seem to make any changes to GVWR and GAWR, at least from I can figure from that 4x2 table.

So the same 2015 truck as mine (with or without MaxTow) would have 6900# GVWR and 3800# rear GAWR. That's a 600# drop in GVWR and a 250# drop in rear GAWR. Depending upon how the GVWR drop is apportioned to the two axles, there may not be much difference in "available" rear GAWR. But there's definitely a max payload increase of 200# (2080# to 2280#).

Looks to me that for this configuration anyway the rear GAWR could still be the bottleneck.



But that's clearly not the case for the HD Payload trucks where the GVWR has dropped but the 4800# rear GAWR remains. (By the way, I'm just guessing that it's the 18" HD alloy wheel configuration that has the 4800# rear GAWR, and the 17" steel wheel that has the 4550# value.)

I was surprised, and relieved, at seeing that 4800# rear GAWR in the HD trucks, as the wheels are just 6 lugs according to the 2015 Order Guide.

And I'll bet we'll be seeing even more "half-ton towable" fifth wheels out there behind the 2015 HD F150s as they'll have even more "available" rear GAWR and 200-300# higher max payloads than earlier models.
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Originally Posted by brulaz
(By "Gen 12" you mean the 2011-2014, right?)
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My 2011 MaxTow 4x2 SCab EcoB has a 4050# rear GAWR and 7500# GVWR. And with my 1030# tongue weight and gear in the truck, I'm right at the rear GAWR limit but 200# under the GVWR. So, yes, the rear GAWR is the "bottleneck".
According to the 2014 chart, the difference between RAWR and base rear weight on your truck is 1667 lbs....

In 2015 MaxTow alone doesn't seem to make any changes to GVWR and GAWR, at least from I can figure from that 4x2 table.

So the same 2015 truck as mine (with or without MaxTow) would have 6900# GVWR and 3800# rear GAWR. That's a 600# drop in GVWR and a 250# drop in rear GAWR. Depending upon how the GVWR drop is apportioned to the two axles, there may not be much difference in "available" rear GAWR. But there's definitely a max payload increase of 200# (2080# to 2280#).

Looks to me that for this configuration anyway the rear GAWR could still be the bottleneck.
Maybe. Given the same RAWR of 3800 lbs in the 4x4 the gen 15 trucks have closer to 1900 lbs difference between base rear weight and RAWR. At least in the SCABS you should be able to take full advantage of GVWR since you yourself were 200 lbs under GVWR before hitting GAWR.
Again you are getting about 230 lbs increase in rear payload compared to a gen 12 7700 GVWR. The bonus is we can get the great payload in a 5.0 and 2.7tt as well.



And I'll bet we'll be seeing even more "half-ton towable" fifth wheels out there behind the 2015 HD F150s as they'll have even more "available" rear GAWR and 200-300# higher max payloads than earlier models.
Weight police will have problems complaining!
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With the new feather lights using aluminum frames really cuts the weight down on the trailers they are fairly 1/2 ton towable now. The improved payload & towing gets you more capacity for extra gear.



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