16IngotFX4

I don't know if it is one of the old-timey myths, but I've heard 30 years ago (or 20?) of how oil will appear dirty more quickly when synthetic oil.

Could be true, or not.
The only way to know for sure is to compare synthetic to blend and to dyno.
Otherwise, color of oil as a determination factor isn't really useful. Comparing one change to the next may be valuable as long as a person keeps the old oil for 6 months to compare side by side. Otherwise, I think we are in a time and place with our heavy detergents, that oil color has nearly no value in a decision about "it's time to change oil" or "I wish I hadn't waited so long".

Dutchmanxtr

I'd bet that most over filling is caused by not letting the oil drain long enough. I can't see those quick lube places stand around waiting but figured the Ford dealers should know better. If it was my vehicle, I'd go back to the dealer and let them know what happened. If I had to pay $100 for a change, I'd want it done properly.

I service my vehicles, and just did an oil change a couple weeks ago. I always let it drain for 30 minutes while I'm putzing with other stuff. For trivia (because I can), this time I measured the oil coming out and going back in. Both were 5.7 litres (which is 6 US quarts). Dip stick level is right on the full mark.

In all the years I've done oil changes, I find the 2.7 one of the easiest. Yes, I have the yellow plug and never spill a drop. I laid under neath holding the plug half out to regulate the flow. That took about 60 seconds before I removed it all the way. Still using the original plug with no leaks. The hardest part is wrestling that tiny oring onto the filter cannister, otherwise pretty fool proof.

Bluegrass

Oil formulation have additives to hold unburnt hydrocarbon blow-by from the Ring packs, in suspension, so it reduces or eliminate Sludge within a time and volume limit per engine.
As wear on the ring packs takes place, the oil will darken faster after an Oil change.
Then to, some oils have different formulations capacity for this.
When the oil can no longer hold the amount of hydrocarbon in suspension, the rest begins to stick and accumulate inside.
This then dictates shorter change intervals as the engine ages from use.
Filters hold this off for a time until all the oil volume gets through the filter and depending on hydrocarbon micron size and how much the filter can hold.
What the filter cannot do is anything with Acids. This is left to the oil formulations with neutralization additives that also deplete.
PCV system also plays a part in the overall results.
It's a balancing act between all these areas, oil marketing and use conditions you have to keep chasing.
Bottom-line is the change interval and filter just timed short enough to keep ahead of it all.
If the oil still has a little transparency, it's not fully loaded yet, but getting close, but not on Acids you can't tell about from just looking.
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If you ever saw what the old engines up into the 60s accumulated inside from the oils of the day, you would see modern oils and their additives do a wonderful, job now and responsible for going well over 100k miles the old engines ever got to before overhaul time.
Fuel injection accuracy is also part of the modern success.

Big Ed 1

You should have added ( for a newbie ) who might be reading, is to leave an oil jug on top of the engine to remind them not to start the engine without it. After they get done putzing around.
I have heard of someone doing that, starting with no oil. I had a buddy who was always hurry to do anything he did it. He did it once, started it just for a second but that was enough.
I know another who ran it so long it threw a rod! He said his radio was set load and he didnt hear it. lol DUH.
Another was a girl trying for the first time to do an oil change by watching utube and forgot somehow. I felt bad for her as she was telling me the story.

I do like you I let it drain and go do something else, but I always leave a jug on top just in case, I never want to do that.
I must be doing it right, I bet if I dropped my pan it would look like new with very little sludge.
I do not like doing it, but like a lot of others who do their own oil changes.

I KNOW IT IS DONE RIGHT! ( & didnt have to pay someone)
There I said it.

16IngotFX4

I have a homework assignment for those DIY'ers.
Set a timer for 15 minutes once you start the drain process (you can wipe off your hands if needed).
At 15 minutes, switch to an empty container to collect the drips from 15 minutes to 30 minutes and share how much oil is accumulated by one drop at a time for 15 minutes.
Have you gotten 1/2-quart, almost a full quart?

Compare the contaminates/swirls between the two containers as well.

Big Ed 1

I always hated homework.
Have you done that?
How about less then a 1/2 a quart? Less then 8 OZ? There is not that much even for 30 mins, unless maybe if you have a lot of sludge build up and it oozes out for hours?
Easier run a magnet thru it while your looking at it
Or send it out for analysis.
I will try at my next change, might be a while, I have a way to go for the next one, in the spring.

16IngotFX4

I have not done that myself.
Everybody whos does their oil changes "properly" allows 20-30 minutes of draining. I wonder how wrong it it to secure the drain plug when the drip falls every few seconds after the initial drain 20 minutes earlier.

I changed oil in the car about a month ago but I did not time anything. At some point I wiped the last drip off the drain hole and tightened up the plug and moved on. It could have been 10 minutes of 'drain time' by time I wiped up some splatters and worked on getting the filter cracked loose. I did it at home but didn't let it drain for a lot of extra minutes so I probably didn't do it right.
It's been a month and I haven't spit out out the rear main nor has the engine developed any knocks so I'm sure I am someplace in the hash marks up "done it right" and "didn't do it right".

Everybody has their own way, right, wrong or indifferent. I don't care how others are doing it as long as they are drain/filling and checking it from time to time.

hijack73

One of these days I'm totally going to get me one of these F150's that get 25-30 mpg at 80 mph and pees out honey gold oil from the drain after 5k miles on the oil. One of these days........

I honestly abhor changing my own oil or doing any routine maintenance anymore. I had about 10 free oil changes from Ford and not changing my own for a few years spoiled me. Then my son started running a quick lube place a couple of years ago - and that spoiled me even more.

Kid moved out of state to run a quick lube somewhere else. Just bought oil and a filter this weekend. Now I'm sad and depressed because I have to haul off dirty (definitely not honey gold still) oil - which is the biggest pain in the bottom IMO.

16IngotFX4

Be careful now.
You know how people talk about kids at the oil change places. hahaha

I just changed oil in a new car -first change I've done in 10 years or so. I wasn't sad but it didn't make me feel proud. If I were 16 and learning how to wrench on my own car, sure. Nothing satisfying about it these days. I have other things that give me a sense of accomplishment or things I could during that time period.

mulyhuntr

Probably could've just done it yourself in the time
it took to post that rant.