Sync Connect Retrofit (in any Ford).
05-06-2020, 02:40 PM
#2641
I dont want to derail this thread but my question is related and everyone here has dug I to this wiring. I have a 2019 500a with the sync connect but I would like to add the 5 button remote with remote start feature. Is it as simple as changing an antenna and programming a new key?
05-06-2020, 11:24 PM
#2642
It's my first day
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by DieselSupercrew
I dont want to derail this thread but my question is related and everyone here has dug I to this wiring. I have a 2019 500a with the sync connect but I would like to add the 5 button remote with remote start feature. Is it as simple as changing an antenna and programming a new key?
05-07-2020, 01:47 AM
#2643
lol what a sore loser... NO 18ga will NOT fit the TCU connector. Try it. Ford engineers use 22ga.. this IS an engineered vehicle... 22ga good enough for the Ford engineering team, I dunno about you, but its good enough for me. If youstill disagree and don't wanna try it for yourself, maybe send Ford engineering team an email.. 
No one said 18ga won't fit C2280C.... ive pinned all over this platform. I'm aware of what fits what and we were talking about you suggesting using an 18ga ground. Again I say try it.
No one said 18ga won't fit C2280C.... ive pinned all over this platform. I'm aware of what fits what and we were talking about you suggesting using an 18ga ground. Again I say try it.
05-07-2020, 02:17 AM
#2644
No offense, but you are just wrong about 22 GA wire and Ethernet. I am a computer engineer and a certified network engineer and I have terminated more Cat-6 than I want to think about. Do they make stranded Cat-6? Yes, but that is specialized. Common CAT-6 is solid core and what I was terminating yesterday was just a 1 foot premade cable that I needed to be about 4 inches to go in a wall. It was not a roll of structured cable.
There are tons of factors that play into the average ratings of 22 gauge stranded wire. How many strands, what voltage, what distance the run is. It is not a one size fits all. There are applications where 22 GA can be used for 7 amps and some where it can be used for less than 1A.
There are tons of factors that play into the average ratings of 22 gauge stranded wire. How many strands, what voltage, what distance the run is. It is not a one size fits all. There are applications where 22 GA can be used for 7 amps and some where it can be used for less than 1A.
Why I preferred to use the ethernet cable vs twisting a couple of wires together is the outer jacket is going to provide some extra protection for the wires, and they are already twisted to proper spec (the green and green / white pair in the bundle). there is no downside to using this and they work fine. For the 22g i completely agree on different ratings based on application, voltage, length of run, wire type, etc. Considering this is about an 8' run of 12v DC to the BCM for power, doing a chart / handbook lookup will spec 18g for an estimated 2a DC draw. That is what I used as a guide, and being an engineer you would likely reference these same sources if unsure on a specific application. if you are connecting the TCU's 12vdc to the Sony amplifier in the back, since it is a very short run 22ga may be just fine. Worst case it is better to be incorrect and one common gauge thicker than one common gauge thinner.
Over the many years of project vehicles and harleys I have seen numerous times where wire bundles were fused together because someone thought it would be a great idea to use thinner gauge wire than specified for the application. Slightly too small gauge of a wire subjected to sustained amperage just above its rating does not fail immediately- it fails over time, heats the jacket and adjacent wires. over time the wires fuse together and eventually cause shorts. once you see and repair things like this, you get a bit OCD on gauge size and going by the book. that's just my take on it, yours is valid as well.
05-07-2020, 11:46 PM
#2645
It's my first day
Thread Starter
If an admin here can just delete the last two pages that would be fantastic!
Last edited by Airborne_Ape; 05-07-2020 at 11:53 PM.
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05-08-2020, 12:34 AM
#2646
It's my first day
Thread Starter
@Greg Roper
As illogical as that sounds, I agree.
The APIM's that are the worst to configure actually did only accept the final calibration file after multiple attempts. I've had previous success loading files in the order listed below.
Focus on 14G374 and 14G375 and remember that if you can still see an APIM in ForScan firmware update tab, then the module can be revived even if the screen is not turning on.
ACool and I have both encountered APIM's though to be dead which were brought back with some mind numbing troubleshooting.
I've had some success using these files.
You can try loading them first and leaving the APIM alone if they provide the results you need.
Step 1:
1U5T-14G374-DA
1U5T-14G375-DA
If those two work, you can attempt these -EH and revert back to -DA if they don't work.
Step 2:
1U5T-14G374-EH
1U5T-14G375-DA
This file sometimes works like a magic bullet and has restored a few 'dead' APIM's I've come across, but it is certainly not the correct file and should not be left on any APIM because it seems to cause an issue where an APIM may never shutdown.
I use this for troubleshooting only:
GB5T-14G74-DG
There's dozens of other files you could attempt but try those listed in step 1 and 2 first ^
I'm officially in step 4. Spent about three hours last night trying every 14G374 file I could find but still no joy. The physical installation was super easy because I had a factory TCU harness in the truck, it was literally plug and play. Jason at FLVPmods.com has been very helpful, he had the TCU authorized and ready to go before he shipped to me. Sync Connect is working great. If I didn't have a need for the hotspot I would have left the firmware as is, at this point hoping to find the magic combination to revive it without having to buy another APIM.
The APIM's that are the worst to configure actually did only accept the final calibration file after multiple attempts. I've had previous success loading files in the order listed below.
Focus on 14G374 and 14G375 and remember that if you can still see an APIM in ForScan firmware update tab, then the module can be revived even if the screen is not turning on.
ACool and I have both encountered APIM's though to be dead which were brought back with some mind numbing troubleshooting.
I've had some success using these files.
You can try loading them first and leaving the APIM alone if they provide the results you need.
Step 1:
1U5T-14G374-DA
1U5T-14G375-DA
If those two work, you can attempt these -EH and revert back to -DA if they don't work.
Step 2:
1U5T-14G374-EH
1U5T-14G375-DA
This file sometimes works like a magic bullet and has restored a few 'dead' APIM's I've come across, but it is certainly not the correct file and should not be left on any APIM because it seems to cause an issue where an APIM may never shutdown.
I use this for troubleshooting only:
GB5T-14G74-DG
There's dozens of other files you could attempt but try those listed in step 1 and 2 first ^
Last edited by Airborne_Ape; 05-08-2020 at 09:17 PM.
05-08-2020, 10:21 AM
#2647
@Greg Roper
As illogical as that sounds, I agree.
The APIM's that are the worst to configure actually did only accept the final calibration file after multiple attempts. I've had previous success loading files in the order listed below.
Focus on 14G374 and 14G375 and remember that if you can still see an APIM in ForScan firmware update tab, then the module can be revived even if the screen is not turning on.
ACool and I have both encountered APIM's though to be dead which were brought back with some mind numbing troubleshooting.
I've had some success using these files.
You can try loading them first and leaving the APIM alone if they provide the results you need.
Step 1:
1U5T-14G374-DA
1U5T-14G375-DA
If those two work, you can attempt these -EH and revert back to -DA if they don't work.
Step 2:
1U5T-14G374-EH
1U5T-14G375-EH
This file sometimes works like a magic bullet and has restored a few 'dead' APIM's I've come across, but it is certainly not the correct file and should not be left on any APIM because it seems to cause an issue where an APIM may never shutdown.
I use this for troubleshooting only:
GB5T-14G74-DG
There's dozens of other files you could attempt but try those listed in step 1 and 2 first ^
As illogical as that sounds, I agree.
The APIM's that are the worst to configure actually did only accept the final calibration file after multiple attempts. I've had previous success loading files in the order listed below.
Focus on 14G374 and 14G375 and remember that if you can still see an APIM in ForScan firmware update tab, then the module can be revived even if the screen is not turning on.
ACool and I have both encountered APIM's though to be dead which were brought back with some mind numbing troubleshooting.
I've had some success using these files.
You can try loading them first and leaving the APIM alone if they provide the results you need.
Step 1:
1U5T-14G374-DA
1U5T-14G375-DA
If those two work, you can attempt these -EH and revert back to -DA if they don't work.
Step 2:
1U5T-14G374-EH
1U5T-14G375-EH
This file sometimes works like a magic bullet and has restored a few 'dead' APIM's I've come across, but it is certainly not the correct file and should not be left on any APIM because it seems to cause an issue where an APIM may never shutdown.
I use this for troubleshooting only:
GB5T-14G74-DG
There's dozens of other files you could attempt but try those listed in step 1 and 2 first ^
05-08-2020, 10:29 AM
#2648
Unable to download 1U5T-14G375-EH from ucdsys.ru - file not found. are there any other sources for that file? the other three were fine. TIA!
05-08-2020, 06:30 PM
#2649
TCU flash 40 minutes
with UCDS
With FORScan it depends of your connector.
can take a lot more time. Try to get ELS connector for faster connection
Last edited by McViper; 05-08-2020 at 06:55 PM.
05-08-2020, 06:44 PM
#2650
