Tow rating??
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Just recently picked up a near new 2019 5.0 crew cab with a 6.5ft box 4x4 and I'm confused about the towing rating. My door jamb says 7050# on it, my old 2012 specifically said gvwr... when I called ford and gave them the vin they tell me 11500lbs rated. I just need to confirm this? Rear end is an e locker 3.73
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What is the gross vehicle weight of your truck? Once you determine that add driver & passenger weight, approx. gear weight, take that total and subtract it from the 11,500 lbs, that will be you towing capacity, oh yes subtract the tongue weight example;
vehicle weight
passenger weight
gear weight
tongue Weight of trailer
the final number is subtracted from 11,500 lb
vehicle weight
passenger weight
gear weight
tongue Weight of trailer
the final number is subtracted from 11,500 lb
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Door sticker lists max payload. Subtract passengers and all things added to truck, remainder is available payload. Since it is used, better option is to fill it with gas at CAT scale, then weigh it and do the math.
You cannot tow 11,500 pounds. Nor do you subtract anything from 11,500. The GVWR is on one sticker, payload is on the other. 7,050 is the GVWR. https://www.f150forum.com/f129/photo...ickers-489959/
GVWR minus payload is the weight of your truck new. Weigh it full of gas, subtract that from GVWR, and that's available payload for people, gear, eight distribution hitch and tongue weight.
Usually, payload will limit your towing ability. The higher the trim, the lower the payload. Load 4 large adults in it, and you severely limit towing ability. Most F-150s are able to tow around 7,000 pounds. Many threads in the towing section of the forum, www.f150forum.com/f82.
You cannot tow 11,500 pounds. Nor do you subtract anything from 11,500. The GVWR is on one sticker, payload is on the other. 7,050 is the GVWR. https://www.f150forum.com/f129/photo...ickers-489959/
GVWR minus payload is the weight of your truck new. Weigh it full of gas, subtract that from GVWR, and that's available payload for people, gear, eight distribution hitch and tongue weight.
Usually, payload will limit your towing ability. The higher the trim, the lower the payload. Load 4 large adults in it, and you severely limit towing ability. Most F-150s are able to tow around 7,000 pounds. Many threads in the towing section of the forum, www.f150forum.com/f82.
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X2, you likely will max out on payload before you can max out on ability to tow or pull. Are you simply curious, or do you have a specific trailer you are considering and want experienced opinions? It can get confusing, marketing departments are great at promoting on part of the equation of what you can put behind your truck.
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Just recently picked up a near new 2019 5.0 crew cab with a 6.5ft box 4x4 and I'm confused about the towing rating. My door jamb says 7050# on it, my old 2012 specifically said gvwr... when I called ford and gave them the vin they tell me 11500lbs rated. I just need to confirm this? Rear end is an e locker 3.73
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Per 2019 Ford Towing Guide:
3.31 axle 9,000# tow capacity
3.55 axle 9,100# tow capacity
3.73 axle 10,700 or 11,500# tow capacity other factors dependent.
The number you listed off your door jam is the GVWR. GCWR has to be reverse engineered using the Towing Guide.
Last edited by Boomerweps; 07-18-2022 at 12:06 PM. Reason: Original numbers 5th wheel.
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X2, you likely will max out on payload before you can max out on ability to tow or pull. Are you simply curious, or do you have a specific trailer you are considering and want experienced opinions? It can get confusing, marketing departments are great at promoting on part of the equation of what you can put behind your truck.
Yea don't believe anything ford tells you. It's all lies
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Everyone's tow rating is BS. Just advertising gimmicks.
Usually based on a base vehicle with a light driver and less than a half tank of gas. No gear, no passengers, no options, no nothing.
Everything you add to it, you subtract from the tow rating and the payload capacity. So if your payload is say, 1,000lbs...that doesn't mean you can put 1,000lbs in it AND tow anything, much less the max trailer weight.
Let's say you can really put 1,000lbs in it. Okay, your tongue weight is going to probably be at least 500lbs if you have a heavy trailer. That 500lbs goes against the payload. Whoops...now your payload is only 500lbs. How much do you weigh? How much do your passengers weigh? How much does your gear/luggage weigh? Gas is 6lbs per gallon, how much is another half-tank? That counts, too.
Then you need to Gross Combined Weight...whatever that is. If your truck is loaded for bear, but you have that 500lbs left for your tongue weight...you're not going to be able to pull the max. It'll be over one of the max numbers. Gross Vehicle Weight, or Gross Combined.
Usually 80% of the "rated" tow capacity is a good # to shoot for, it's more realistic.
So weigh the truck. Subtract that from your GVWR. That's what your payload is. Then figure out (and be honest) the weight of people/gear and tongue weight you're going to carry. Then look at the Gross Combined rating and you'll have a pretty good idea of what you can actually pull. It likely won't be anywhere near 11,500. I wouldn't pull that much with a 1/2 ton in the first place, but that's just me. If you're going to pull that much regularly, you really need a 3/4 ton.
Usually based on a base vehicle with a light driver and less than a half tank of gas. No gear, no passengers, no options, no nothing.
Everything you add to it, you subtract from the tow rating and the payload capacity. So if your payload is say, 1,000lbs...that doesn't mean you can put 1,000lbs in it AND tow anything, much less the max trailer weight.
Let's say you can really put 1,000lbs in it. Okay, your tongue weight is going to probably be at least 500lbs if you have a heavy trailer. That 500lbs goes against the payload. Whoops...now your payload is only 500lbs. How much do you weigh? How much do your passengers weigh? How much does your gear/luggage weigh? Gas is 6lbs per gallon, how much is another half-tank? That counts, too.
Then you need to Gross Combined Weight...whatever that is. If your truck is loaded for bear, but you have that 500lbs left for your tongue weight...you're not going to be able to pull the max. It'll be over one of the max numbers. Gross Vehicle Weight, or Gross Combined.
Usually 80% of the "rated" tow capacity is a good # to shoot for, it's more realistic.
So weigh the truck. Subtract that from your GVWR. That's what your payload is. Then figure out (and be honest) the weight of people/gear and tongue weight you're going to carry. Then look at the Gross Combined rating and you'll have a pretty good idea of what you can actually pull. It likely won't be anywhere near 11,500. I wouldn't pull that much with a 1/2 ton in the first place, but that's just me. If you're going to pull that much regularly, you really need a 3/4 ton.
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A full tank of gas is included in payload number.
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Originally Posted by SpencerPJ
X2, you likely will max out on payload before you can max out on ability to tow or pull. Are you simply curious, or do you have a specific trailer you are considering and want experienced opinions? It can get confusing, marketing departments are great at promoting on part of the equation of what you can put behind your truck.
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Originally Posted by Boomerweps
Depends on your axle ratio in addition to the other data provided. Axle code is listed on the white door frame sticker and can be decoded using the Owners manual (or just look on your window sticker if available).
Per 2019 Ford Towing Guide:
3.31 axle 9,000# tow capacity
3.55 axle 9,100# tow capacity
3.73 axle 10,700 or 11,500# tow capacity other factors dependent.
The number you listed off your door jam is the GVWR. GCWR has to be reverse engineered using the Towing Guide.
Per 2019 Ford Towing Guide:
3.31 axle 9,000# tow capacity
3.55 axle 9,100# tow capacity
3.73 axle 10,700 or 11,500# tow capacity other factors dependent.
The number you listed off your door jam is the GVWR. GCWR has to be reverse engineered using the Towing Guide.