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Just recently picked up a near new 2019 5.0 crew cab with a 6.5ft box 4x4 and I'm confused about the towing rating. My door jamb says 7050# on it, my old 2012 specifically said gvwr... when I called ford and gave them the vin they tell me 11500lbs rated. I just need to confirm this? Rear end is an e locker 3.73
Thanks
The number on your door jamb sticker is the truck's Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. The Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating is NOT printed on any placard on the truck, nor is the tow rating. You can find both of those numbers by mining through Ford's tow guides.
Yea it's got the 3.73 rear end.... With my last f150 what was on the door jamb was the actual tow rating, but this one is different, ford says they use a code system now... ie 5500, 6600, 7050 and I believe there's one more
I believe you're mistaken. Here's the stickers from my 2013 F-150, one year after yours.
There's no tow rating on the door stickers, only GVWR and Payload.
Tow rating is the maximum weight of the trailer.
Payload is the maximum combined weight of people, cargo, tow hitch and tongue weight. This is almost always the limiting factor, not tow rating. The only way you can typically tow those 10K+ tow rating would be with an equipment trailer with no passengers or cargo. Never going to get near it with a typical camper and people and cargo. This also why you want to stuff the trailer full of cargo before you put any cargo in the truck. 100% of cargo in the truck gets deducted from payload, whereas only 10-15% gets deducted from what's in the trailer.
Everyone's tow rating is BS. Just advertising gimmicks.
Usually based on a base vehicle with a light driver and less than a half tank of gas. No gear, no passengers, no options, no nothing.
Everything you add to it, you subtract from the tow rating and the payload capacity. So if your payload is say, 1,000lbs...that doesn't mean you can put 1,000lbs in it AND tow anything, much less the max trailer weight.
Let's say you can really put 1,000lbs in it. Okay, your tongue weight is going to probably be at least 500lbs if you have a heavy trailer. That 500lbs goes against the payload. Whoops...now your payload is only 500lbs. How much do you weigh? How much do your passengers weigh? How much does your gear/luggage weigh? Gas is 6lbs per gallon, how much is another half-tank? That counts, too.
Then you need to Gross Combined Weight...whatever that is.
While you had some good advice mixed in, much is not. I edited it down a lot.
Ford Tow ratings do include full fluids (gas), one 150# driver 2019 and before. 2020+ Tow ratings also includes ONE 150# passenger and 100# for the weight distributing hitch per current SAE Towing Test standards.
Determining the truck GCWR is a bother. Cross referencing truck specifics in the Ford Towing Guide somewhat backwards will show the truck’s GCWR in the left most column in the charts. Once you determine your truck’s GCWR, you can subtract your trucks true ready to tow weight and what remains is the truck’s towing capacity. Most accurate method.
Example:
GVWR 7000# per sticker. 1990# Load Capacity per sticker.
My charted tow capacity is 9100#.
GCWR Per owners manual 14,400#. GCWR per Towing Guide 14,500#.
Unladen weight per PA registration 4708#.
GVW 5010# (GVWR minus Load Capacity).
GVW using HitchHaul Gage with driver and normally carried cargo 5400#.
Earlier Ford Towing Configurator said 9400# tow capacity (no longer available).
Best calculated current Towing Capacity 8710#.
My travel trailer GVWR is just 3877# so it’s a dream towing.
I concur that if only the basic Towing capacity is known, trying for 80% of that for a travel trailer GVWR will make for a better towing experience (especially for towing newbies) is good advice. Save the maxing out the tow rating for a few one-offs. Changes the work to pleasure dynamic.
Just recently picked up a near new 2019 5.0 crew cab with a 6.5ft box 4x4 and I'm confused about the towing rating. My door jamb says 7050# on it, my old 2012 specifically said gvwr... when I called ford and gave them the vin they tell me 11500lbs rated. I just need to confirm this? Rear end is an e locker 3.73
Thanks
As you've read by now -tow rating is somewhat ficticous since you didn't purchase the exact truck in the footnote of the towing quides.
The "Towing Capacity" number is a really good thing to know because it sounds good in a conversation with friends. I have an F150 with an 11,400 tow capacity. Fortunately none of your friends will ever ask you to to a trailer that heavy, therefore you'll never need to tell them you didn't mean "your" F150 will tow that much.
In a practical sense -you'll be capable of towing an RV weighing ~8,000lbs. Or maybe you can get that 11,000 load if you haul construction equipment or 11,000lbs of gravel in a cargo trailer.
My 2016 for example has a whopping 1409 load, therefore making an 8,000lb RV nearly overloaded, depending how much stuff aside from 'me' I put in the cab/bed.
There are a lot of items that go into tow rating that should be considered.
Unfortunately, most owners usually do not know or consider this.
Among them is tire rating such as a P vs LT and tire load carrying capacity. P tires are actually de- rated for max towing capacity.
Is the cooling system up to the task?
Are state legal requirements being met etc.
So this can be argued all day.
After all, when on the road, the driver may have legal responsibility to other in accident cases, and insurance issues can become involved when there is a challenge to responsibility. Especially towing, over capacity specifications.
To many purchase trailers that are overweight for the tow vehicle because the salesperson wants the sale, and the buyer does not know any better.
Right here on this board, a buyer has shown hard headedness when told he cannot pull a 5th wheel full front type with his super crew short bed and purchased the trailer anyway. No full turning radius and overloaded the truck bed weight.
Good luck.
There are a lot of items that go into tow rating that should be considered.
Unfortunately, most owners usually do not know or consider this.
Among them is tire rating such as a P vs LT and tire load carrying capacity. P tires are actually de- rated for max towing capacity.
Is the cooling system up to the task?
Are state legal requirements being met etc.
So this can be argued all day.
After all, when on the road, the driver may have legal responsibility to other in accident cases, and insurance issues can become involved when there is a challenge to responsibility. Especially towing, over capacity specifications.
To many purchase trailers that are overweight for the tow vehicle because the salesperson wants the sale, and the buyer does not know any better.
Right here on this board, a buyer has shown hard headedness when told he cannot pull a 5th wheel full front type with his super crew short bed and purchased the trailer anyway. No full turning radius and overloaded the truck bed weight.
Good luck.
No I get that. I've been towing for years now, I'm just trying to understand why Ford says one thing and the door jamb says something else... even combined it doesn't add to the 11500lbs....
07-19-2022, 01:58 AM
