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Old 04-24-2020, 04:58 PM
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A factory package would be something that rolls off the factory floor. You're not going to find Leather + Liner package from FOMOCO, thats a dealer package. Go on Ford website and build an XLT with leather then report back. Do you think Ford is going to sell their trucks with Katskin branded seats?
That's not what I mean. Yes the leather is added aftermarket but the dealer doesn't pay for this. Neither is it added to the sticker price. The program is ran through Ford motor company and is available throughout many dealerships. Do you think dealers are going to give you Katskin leather for free?
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Old 04-24-2020, 05:05 PM
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That's not what I mean. Yes the leather is added aftermarket but the dealer doesn't pay for this. Neither is it added to the sticker price. The program is ran through Ford motor company and is available throughout many dealerships. Do you think dealers are going to give you Katskin leather for free?

Just pointing out what you originally said "the XLT already has leather" was wrong. The fact is, they don't.
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Basically he just wants to say you're wrong
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Old 04-24-2020, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny_bravo00
Just pointing out what you originally said "the XLT already has leather" was wrong. The fact is, they don't.
You misread my post then. I said the XLT has a leather wheel not seats. I said it has LED bed and spot lights not headlights. My point was, it does offer something LED and leather as opposed to the XL.
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Old 04-24-2020, 05:51 PM
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That's not what I mean. Yes the leather is added aftermarket but the dealer doesn't pay for this. Neither is it added to the sticker price. The program is ran through Ford motor company and is available throughout many dealerships. Do you think dealers are going to give you Katskin leather for free?
LOL this is not a Ford OEM package...
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Now a days anything that doesn't come with leather and LED headlights is basically a base vehicle. I test drove a XLT after I tested a Lariat and was shocked how cheap it looked inside. XLT's are still really high priced imo for what you get. Better off getting a STX. Everyone has their own idea of what looks nice or what the want. That's why there are so many trim levels and options.
amen!....no leather? No LED? Base...
let’s not even talk about how somehow Toyota made their array of sensor as ‘base’ as well.
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Originally Posted by hellb0y
LOL this is not a Ford OEM package...
where did I say it was?
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Originally Posted by hellb0y
amen!....no leather? No LED? Base...
let’s not even talk about how somehow Toyota made their array of sensor as ‘base’ as well.
the XLT actually has a leather wheel and LED bed and spot lights.
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Originally Posted by hellb0y
amen!....no leather? No LED? Base...
let’s not even talk about how somehow Toyota made their array of sensor as ‘base’ as well.
Fine. Agree. XLT is base. That said...So I'll do a value proposition. I have a very nicely equipped XLT. ... Or, i could "move up" to a Lariat trim......with fake/tacky wood panels on the door, leather seats (meh), 4A (which is useless in a truck IMHO), maybe a bit fancier dash, vibrating seats ( I have a wife for that), instrument panel that tells me the psi of the turbo boost (not a Nascar driver... don't care) dual climate (I'll turn up the heat more and close my vents if the wife is cold)......
......Or, buy my "basic trim" poor man's XLT and get this for free (for the same price of a Lariat).

But, whatever floats your boat ​​​​​​
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Originally Posted by DarrinT04
does it work like a starter to where the gear on the motor will let go from the tailgate track when not being used? that way you can still close it manually if preferred?
I didn't get to open or close it so I can't confirm how it works.
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