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Old 06-26-2020, 01:46 PM
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I noticed the dual exhaust on the Limited went away, i.e. no HO 3.5. I'm not crazy about the Limited colors, but I really need to see it in person to make a final judgement.

Anyone who has a 2019-2020 with the HO 3.5 I bet it holds its value.

There are a lot of new things which makes the 2021 better, but I wonder what 2022,2023,2024 will bring as well.

My 2019 is paid for, so I'm not going to go into debt for "new" at this time. However in a year or two maybe.
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Old 06-26-2020, 01:58 PM
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When do you expect the new 2021's will hit the car lot?
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Old 06-26-2020, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ril850
Anyone notice the stock pictures are running larger tires. The Ford reps say it would have larger wheel openings and a wider track.
Specs show a 275/60R20 instead of 275/55R20 for 20-inch wheels, so about 1 inch taller.
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Having a 2020 on order right now I perused the material for the 21 and there were a number of things that made me question whether or not I'd want to wait. I love the idea of the bigger screen and bigger information cluster. Dig the new front end and I'm very curious as to what the ratings will be on the Powerboost engine. As I looked through all of the new options, I kept seeing more and more dollar signs. Depending on what options are available at different trim levels, it wouldn't surprise me to see it approaching an $80k price tag. Heck, there isn't that much new tech that was introduced from 17 to 20 and a comparably equipped truck was about $5k higher in price.
All that being said, I could see picking up 2024-2025 truck once all the new wrinkles are ironed out.
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Easy fix for the OTA updates. Unplug the antenna! Problem solved. Now the real question is, being that it is OTA, did Ford encrypt the canbus? If so, then forscan will get locked out until they figure out how to break the encryption, and if they do it, then so can anyone else, and gain control of the systems through OTA. Can you imagine if a hacker got into the Ford system and shut everyones OTA equipped vehicles down? I think there was a Die Hard movie where they did something like this to the city. Yeah, OTA seems like a great idea, until some nefarious fool decides to play Electrogod.
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I dig it. Love the new interior. I am trying to hold on to my '13 FX4 as long as possible before buying another. May be in for a 2022 or 2023.


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Old 06-26-2020, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Never mind I found one.



I've been following this thread like a kid waiting for Christmas and this is only the second post to mention the underbite front end of the 2021. Ford says this is a bolder and tougher model. Looks like tough means getting punched in the face and getting a fat lower lip. Butt ugly.

Besides that I'm impressed. The larger center screen, onboard generator and fold-flat center console are nice improvements.
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Opinions will always vary and you cannot satisfy everyone. Some are complaining about the black plastic on tbe center stack around the screen. If Ford puts wood there then some would complain it looks old. If Ford uses another color like Silver then it's too bright. If they use something like a carbon fiber then some would say it looks cheap and fake. Next people really seem to be contradicting themselves. I see the same people complaining that exterior looks the same and it is a refresh and not all new. Then the same ones say it looks like a GMC Sierra. So which one is it? This confirms that people make knee jerk reactions without thinking it through and want something to complain about. Over at the other forum I saw people complaining about the stow away shifter being "just a another thing to go wrong". Yet, these were the same people bragging on the GMC tailgate, go figure.
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Originally Posted by DarrinT04
put the 2020 mirrors on the 2021 and i'll take it
Take the letters off the hood and I'll take either.
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Originally Posted by mopar1970
Ford did a cylinder deactivation on their turbo 1.0l was the only reference recent reference I could find for their use of a cylinder deactivation.
maybe cutting out cylinder will quite down the engine knocking on the v8.
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