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i'm happy they didn't go the chevy/gmc route and raise the hood another foot.My nephews new 3/4 chevy is so high you almost need to look out the sunroof to see whats right in front of the truck.
I saw at least 3 different grills in the reveal, (I lost count), but at 36:00 in this video, the Ford guy says that there are 11 grills. And 13 wheels. And even Denis Leary mentioned the 11 grills.
So please be specific. Do you not like all 11 grills?
another guy expressed it better in that the grill design doesn't seem to fit with the other front end components as does the underbite. some of the grills are ok, havent seen them on but one is particularity ugly
Originally Posted by ScaldedApe
To be fair, this info is already stored in a device we carry with us in our vehicle every day. But, you have the option to turn your phone off when in the vehicle (now whether it's truly off if you can't pull the battery is another story). Ford Pass is always live and it's putting that info in ANOTHER database which can be leaked, requested by insurance companies or law enforcement, or sold to advertisers. Ford will argue that it's just for "feature enhancements or in-house research", but so was Facebook before they went public.
It gives them leverage in using the vehicle is an agreement to their terms. You don't own the vehicle, you're merely using it with their permission. Just look at John Deere and the right to repair fight they're having on their heavy equipment. This just gives the manufacturer even more power over the consumer.
There was a sema lawsuite i believe a while back although i don't recall the dteails or dispositon but essentially the auto manufactures where arguing just that angle (licensing vs ownership) to make modifications ect.
I have a tracphone and garman gps if i ever needed to avoid any of that. I may also be building a restomod UAV (Urban Assault Vehicle) based upon an older non ecm vehicle depending on the fall elections but thats an different discussion when the cold civil war goes hot........starting already.
Having a 2020 on order right now I perused the material for the 21 and there were a number of things that made me question whether or not I'd want to wait. I love the idea of the bigger screen and bigger information cluster. Dig the new front end and I'm very curious as to what the ratings will be on the Powerboost engine. As I looked through all of the new options, I kept seeing more and more dollar signs. Depending on what options are available at different trim levels, it wouldn't surprise me to see it approaching an $80k price tag. Heck, there isn't that much new tech that was introduced from 17 to 20 and a comparably equipped truck was about $5k higher in price.
All that being said, I could see picking up 2024-2025 truck once all the new wrinkles are ironed out.
Well in any case, I imagine it will be well into 2021 before the big incentives kick in again.
I just bought a 2020 a few weeks ago having seen what the changes were. It's different and I don't love or hate it but there's nothing there that made me want to wait. I think Ford did a nice job. I actually like the GMs and Ford did a good job of going in that direction without going too far.
I did find it interesting that the 2021 stock front air dam is sort of the opposite of what many of us trimmed our 2015-2020 to look like.
I saw a clip of the air dam being power adjustable. You raise for clearance and lowered . Most likely a high end model option.
correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most bumpers stick out a little farther than the grille? Isn't that the point of a bumper? I think most common cars and trucks do this.
06-26-2020, 02:44 PM
