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The EV industry in the US is just in the toddler stage of its life.
The only mainstream BEV in the US right now is the Mustang Mach E.
The Tesla, while selling well in some states, is not a nationwide vehicle. Their dealer network is minimal, there are many states with no dealers or service.
The MME has Ford's dealer network for support, their main problem is making them fast enough. Right now, the wait time for a MME is up to 24 weeks. Go to the MME forums to see the backlog.
Ford expects to make 50,000 Mach-E cars in 2021. If we assume 50% are delivered outside the US and that each Ford dealership (7500 globally) retains one car on average, there would be only 17,500 Mach-E deliveries to US customers in 2021. So I expect delivery for my order that I placed a few days ago to, in reality, be in the first part of 2022, maybe the first half of 2022.
Now the question is, why is there such a demand? Because people have seen what a BEV can do, and they love it. And getting 90 to 100 MPG, from a vehicle that weighs 4,500#+, and that does 0 to 60 in the 5 second range, is phenomenal.
Don't forget this. I can't wait to see what the Lightning EPA numbers are.
The EV industry in the US is just in the toddler stage of its life.
The only mainstream BEV in the US right now is the Mustang Mach E.
The Tesla, while selling well in some states, is not a nationwide vehicle. Their dealer network is minimal, there are many states with no dealers or service.
The MME has Ford's dealer network for support, their main problem is making them fast enough. Right now, the wait time for a MME is up to 24 weeks. Go to the MME forums to see the backlog.
Now the question is, why is there such a demand? Because people have seen what a BEV can do, and they love it. And getting 90 to 100 MPG, from a vehicle that weighs 4,500#+, and that does 0 to 60 in the 5 second range, is phenomenal.
Don't forget this. I can't wait to see what the Lightning EPA numbers are.
I'm not so sure your Tesla stats are up to date. Took me 5 seconds to find the actual numbers.
The Model 3 sold a total of 439,760 units in 2020, which is even more impressive considering the car was only launched in the US in 2018, and even later in other regions. Sales volume ramped up very quickly indeed. It is now the bestselling EV of all time as well, with over 800,000 units sold overall. Forbes May 29, 2021
The MPGe can cause artificial boners. It's about the best that the EPA can come up with to have something to put on the sticker. I imagine most want to know what their MPG gas equivalent is on a cost basis, or cost per mile comparison, but it's just going to vary so wildly across the country that you have to do the math yourself. Things that are going to vary are if you charged it at home or on the road (sometimes public chargers may cost twice as much as your home rate), what the cost of gas was when you charged, etc.
Example for that one that gets 93 MPGe:
36kwh/100mi
My home rate is around $0.10/kwh
36 x $0.10 = $3.60
Current local fuel cost $2.60/gallon
$3.60/$2.60 = 1.385 gallons to go 100 miles
100/1.385 = 72.2 mpg
Last year we were paying maybe $1.60 for gas so that would drop it to 44.4mpg equivalent.
Now, if it were on the road it could vary wildly.....but some places have free charging. My company used to offer free EV hookups, now they charge per hour. CA requires chargers to provide actual cost per kwh not just cost for time, and they are going to require charging by the kwh instead of by the minute if they haven't already. But then again, going EV isn't solely about cost savings.
MPGe bears no relation to a meaningful comparison among fuel sources. In my opinion a different MPG equivalency should be established reflecting actual carbon released from the fossil fuel used to power the vehicle. If this were done accurately without the usual BS, the MPGe of EVs would be about the same as a combustion engine.
The tragedy of the horrific misrepresentation of MPGe forms the basis of the primary government mandate of EVs due to CAFE. This forms the house of cards supporting the EV movement. It is illegitimate and will not survive scrutiny as the public learns the scam used by the government to mandate and prop EVs into the forefront.
I would have to disagree. The MPGe is exactly that, a comparison of 1 energy equivalent of 1 gallon of gasoline which is the best comparison currently available. You must work in the oil and gas industry because your thought process has no actual logic. It's going to take at least 20 years to transition majority of the current passenger cars to EV's and the technology will be light years ahead of ICE by that time. Heck the EV raw performance is already better in regards to torque and speed. The only real thing holding people back, including myself, has been cost. Once cost is at par or less than their ICE counterparts the flood gates are going to open. Check out the interest in the new electric trucks about to hit the market like the Lightning, Cyber Truck, Rivian and Hummer it's off the charts....probably more than they even anticipated. Two of my neighbors charge their own vehicles from their self sufficient solar system and never have to stop at a gas station again. I'll drive my Powerboost until my Lightning comes out. Looking forward to it.
06-17-2021, 06:14 PM
