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Old 04-30-2021, 09:06 PM
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As the issues with range and the number of charging stations are resolved, EV will take off. Can you imagine the kind of torque they could get in an F150? It would be insane!
Your wish is Ford's command, LOL. You will love this article.

But the naysayers, like in Post 2, 14, 16 etc. are going to hate it . Enjoy.

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thre...c-pickup.3376/

Ford F-150 Lightning Name Will Return for Electric Pickup
Ford's upcoming electric F-150 will bear the same name as V-8–powered street trucks from the '90s and early 2000s.
By Connor Hoffman
Apr 30, 2021
Ford hasn't released many details on the F-150 Lightning's powertrain, but it will have a dual-motor setup providing all-wheel drive. Ford says the electric F-150 will provide more horsepower and torque and the fastest acceleration of any F-150 currently on the market. That means it'll have more than 450 horsepower and do zero to 60 mph in less than 5.0 seconds. In our 2001 test, the SVT F-150 Lightning launched to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds on its way to a 13.8-second quarter mile at 104 mph.
The Ford F-150 Lighting and its batteries will be produced at a new electric vehicle facility at Ford's Rouge Center in Dearborn, Michigan. It will arrive in mid-2022.
This might explain why the reporter in Post #1 actually asked his question.

And to the poster that said that they will fly off the dealers lot I say .
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Nope.. When they come up with a real battery that can charge/ discharge without damage or those nasty temp limitations , Like maybe the

graphene batteries, or the carbon nano tube.. all awesome, a decade away from production.. until then,just a good ol hybrid

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I can’t see why they can’t put alternators on all 4 wheels and charge the battery while your driving?You can put them behind the rotors all tires are rotating.They can mount a solar panel on the roof also and on your side mirrors can be small solar panels.Then all during the day your car has some kind of charge happening.I know it’s more expensive but these things aren’t going to be cheap anyways and they are coming even though I don’t like the idea.They are going to charge for these plug stations when there a lot rc cars and trucks on the road and it isn’t going to be cheap.lol
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LOL.. we need holes in the floor boards so we can help the car scoot along. It worked for the Flintstones....
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Originally Posted by HamBandit
Here's a question, at what point is the energy still not free?

I pay on average over 12 months $170 on electric. I am soon having my roof filled with solar panels, and the panels save me $40 a month while giving me 110% energy offset

That 10% is free, and go right into an electric car. In fact, more than that 10% is free, since I'm saving $40 a month too, and now can't end up with a rate increase
I am addressing your comment, but not intending to derail the conversation.
The average price in the US to install a 6 kW solar panel system after energy credits is about $14000. Most homes need at least 13 kW to cover usage without the grid. If you are 100% solar after the installation, the price is at least double the 6 kW estimate after federal credits.
So, your "free energy" assuming the numbers are right is $14,000/$40 = 29 years to recoup the monthly savings.

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I can’t see why they can’t put alternators on all 4 wheels and charge the battery while your driving?You can put them behind the rotors all tires are rotating.They can mount a solar panel on the roof also and on your side mirrors can be small solar panels.Then all during the day your car has some kind of charge happening.I know it’s more expensive but these things aren’t going to be cheap anyways and they are coming even though I don’t like the idea.They are going to charge for these plug stations when there a lot rc cars and trucks on the road and it isn’t going to be cheap.lol
I don't understand why so many people have this idea, you can't have free energy

So a battery powers a motor, which powers the wheels, and then you want alternators on all 4 wheels to capture that energy back? This is like plugging an extension cord into itself and expecting free power



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I am addressing your comment, but not intending to derail the conversation.
The average price in the US to install a 6 kW solar panel system after energy credits is about $14000. Most homes need at least 13 kW to cover usage without the grid. If you are 100% solar after the installation, the price is at least double the 6 kW estimate after federal credits.
So, your "free energy" assuming the numbers are right is $14,000/$40 = 29 years to recoup the monthly savings.
Your numbers are way out of whack. The payback currently here in Texas (And we have no state incentives!) Is around 10-12 year, not 29 years

Most people don't need a 13kw system at all, a 13kw system would cover my usage 100%, and I live in Texas with an old home with poor insulation, I use more electricity than the average American home because Houston is super hot

The average cost of a 12kw system after tax is $25k, and here in Houston that would be right around a 10-13 year payback vs current electric costs which are already low. Go to a state with more expensive electric, and more solar incentives and its even better

Not only that, but that assumes no increases in cost, and if anyone thinks that the cost of electric in Texas won't rise, they are crazy
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Depends on several factors,, What is cheep,, I live in a very rare spot that elect is .16 cents per Kwh. My monthly high is 2300Kwh,, summer load big house very very well insulated / VFD drives on all motors..but a hot summer meaning at least 13 days triple digits, I think the math problem here is KW usage using to KWH as energy without time. KWH is a measure of energy,,,kW is a measure of power. I personally prefer therms of kJ..
The 7.2 kWpowerBoost for example will not power my whole house . Power =energy x time or KW= KWH/H
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Originally Posted by HamBandit
I don't understand why so many people have this idea, you can't have free energy

So a battery powers a motor, which powers the wheels, and then you want alternators on all 4 wheels to capture that energy back? This is like plugging an extension cord into itself and expecting free power
It’s the same way your truck work now.When the engine is running it spins and turns and alternator that chargers your battery and supplies electricity for your truck.Pretty simple I think.
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Originally Posted by 7cbreeze
Depends on several factors,, What is cheep,, I live in a very rare spot that elect is .16 cents per Kwh. My monthly high is 2300Kwh,, summer load big house very very well insulated / VFD drives on all motors..but a hot summer meaning at least 13 days triple digits, I think the math problem here is KW usage using to KWH as energy without time. KWH is a measure of energy,,,kW is a measure of power. I personally prefer therms of kJ..
The 7.2 kWpowerBoost for example will not power my whole house . Power =energy x time or KW= KWH/H
When you have net metering it doesn't matter. As long as the kwh lines up at the end, thats all that counts
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