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Old 06-24-2021, 12:47 PM
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Regarding pickups, I'd like to see so figures regarding Range, with a load in the bed, and Range while towing various weights, as it is still a truck, and should be doing what trucks do, work.
Range figures appear to be with a 1000lb load.
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Old 06-24-2021, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by [F2C]MaDMaXX
Range figures appear to be with a 1000lb load.
Yes, but what about towing? As the towing figure (max tow), is always highlighted by truck sales literature, and it is a big part of a truck. EV's trucks are new to 99%+ of all p/u truck owners, these are the type of figures, that would be really good to know. I'd sure hate to see a guy stranded on the side of the highway, because his range dropped 30-40% due to the load he was towing. Instead of helping him with a can of gas, you could go rent a good sized generator, fire it up, and wait there with him for 4 or 5 hours while he gets his charge on. I believe if you are going to be towing and working your truck, maybe installing a good diesel generator in the bed would be a good thing, kinda like carrying a couple of 5 gal gas cans----JIC.
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Originally Posted by pawprint
Yes, but what about towing? As the towing figure (max tow), is always highlighted by truck sales literature, and it is a big part of a truck. EV's trucks are new to 99%+ of all p/u truck owners, these are the type of figures, that would be really good to know. I'd sure hate to see a guy stranded on the side of the highway, because his range dropped 30-40% due to the load he was towing. Instead of helping him with a can of gas, you could go rent a good sized generator, fire it up, and wait there with him for 4 or 5 hours while he gets his charge on. I believe if you are going to be towing and working your truck, maybe installing a good diesel generator in the bed would be a good thing, kinda like carrying a couple of 5 gal gas cans----JIC.
Well it answered half of your question...

As for the latter part of your comment, all EV's have context aware range predictions on them, typically far more accurate than the gas powered DTE estimates - they're also equipped with the technology to plan and predict routes and charging stations, so whilst it'll still happen, because humans, it's not going to be as bad as days of old and running out of gas.
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Originally Posted by [F2C]MaDMaXX
Well it answered half of your question...

As for the latter part of your comment, all EV's have context aware range predictions on them, typically far more accurate than the gas powered DTE estimates - they're also equipped with the technology to plan and predict routes and charging stations, so whilst it'll still happen, because humans, it's not going to be as bad as days of old and running out of gas.
You may be right, and I hope you are; however, "the days of old and running out of gas" was very easy to avoid, put some jerry can full of gas in you bed, worked for 70-80 years, and still works. I can't remember having a ford truck without dual tanks, and that's going back a long time. Range has always been important to me. For those that live like sardines, in the Big cities, this truck seems to have more than enough range. For those that plan on using it as their daily driver, and never to almost never haul or tow (as so many full size p/u are used for, this thing is going to be the ticket, a very expensive ticket, but it'll get the job done. Tucson to Las Vegas, or El Paso to Flagstaff, or Albuquerque to CO, etc. is a little different story,
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Originally Posted by [F2C]MaDMaXX
Range figures appear to be with a 1000lb load.
That appears to be what a couple people have claimed an engineer said. I have still not seen any official word from Ford on that. Range is probably the single most important spec that buyers are going to care about. I have a lot of trouble believing that Ford would under-promise that much and used their own methods instead of the established ones that all their competitors use.
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Originally Posted by bisonp
That appears to be what a couple people have claimed an engineer said. I have still not seen any official word from Ford on that. Range is probably the single most important spec that buyers are going to care about. I have a lot of trouble believing that Ford would under-promise that much and used their own methods instead of the established ones that all their competitors use.
Dunno, seems like smart pub to me. When the actual EPA numbers are released, and they are higher than initially advertised, the press will run with it. Seems Ford did just that (tho to a lesser degree) with the Mach-E GT.

Also a bit like playing poker with the competition...thinking here's the mark to beat, only to have it change right before the OSD.

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I'll wait until a few of the independent writers/bloggers get their hands on one, pull a trailer etc. up and down a highway with a few hills etc. These numbers are always more reliable, in my experience. Along with the cost to charge vs cost to purchase gas or diesel-this would reveal the true cost of ownership.
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People running out of gas doesn't happen the way it used to since DTE readouts in vehicles.

As a %, the number of people who need to use the extreme range of a truck's 36 gallon tank, is pretty low, but they absolutely exist, and for those people, EV's aren't there yet. And that's fine.
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What happens if I run out of charge on the road?

Ford Roadside Assistance6 has you covered in the US for 5 years/60,000 miles (whichever comes first). You can choose where you would like to have your vehicle towed and recharged within 35 miles of your vehicle location: your home, a public charge station or an EV Certified Ford dealership. If beyond 35 miles, Ford will take you to the nearest available option.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/

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With over 100,000 reservations now, I assume some of those will end up being 2023s.
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