F150 Lightning
#1201
Senior Member
For you in Minn, full stations are probably not a problem. On the Tesla forums the folks in Ca seem most concerned. Overall more use should lead to more stations.
As far as scheduled users, no the car does not tell you. But Tesla may know because they can track the cars.
There are rules for SC use. If a station is over half full and your car is connected and not charging, you can be billed $1/minute. That is in response to people just parking at a SC overnight. Apparently there are a lot of people who have no other way of charging. Price for charging varies from place to place and because some areas will not allow for a non-utility to charge by the kWh (which is a measure of energy ~ more or less equivalent to billing for gallons of gasoline). In those you pay in tears by the minute with the rate dependant on your charge rate.
FWIW in my travels I have never waited for a SC to open up.
As far as scheduled users, no the car does not tell you. But Tesla may know because they can track the cars.
There are rules for SC use. If a station is over half full and your car is connected and not charging, you can be billed $1/minute. That is in response to people just parking at a SC overnight. Apparently there are a lot of people who have no other way of charging. Price for charging varies from place to place and because some areas will not allow for a non-utility to charge by the kWh (which is a measure of energy ~ more or less equivalent to billing for gallons of gasoline). In those you pay in tears by the minute with the rate dependant on your charge rate.
FWIW in my travels I have never waited for a SC to open up.
#1202
Senior Member
#1203
Senior Member
All this "free" energy is interesting. However, as soon as this EV thing really starts to take off you can bet that the government, feds/state & perhaps even local are going to fire up their tax machines to make it far less "free". Here in my state of Pa, the state just got the bright idea to charge a $1 tax for every Amazon/UPS/grocery & any other home delivery.
#1204
(A random northerner)
I don't think I would buy a used one though. I wonder how the market will be for those... ?
#1205
(A random northerner)
All this "free" energy is interesting. However, as soon as this EV thing really starts to take off you can bet that the government, feds/state & perhaps even local are going to fire up their tax machines to make it far less "free". Here in my state of Pa, the state just got the bright idea to charge a $1 tax for every Amazon/UPS/grocery & any other home delivery.
#1206
2022 F150 Lightning
Wondering if someone is out there that can clarify something for me on the F150 full electric coming out in 2022. I haven't owned an electric vehicle so this whole subject is new to me. My question revolves around charging. I don't know the proper terms but I get the basics of charging stations spread out all over and you can install some equipment in your garage to charge it at home. Can you consider charging your Lightning from a generator? My situation is that I have a hunting shack 200 miles away. My understanding is that with the upgraded battery package you get 300 miles before a charge. That will get me up to the shack. I don't have electricity at the shack so if I wanted to do both directions without stopping for a charge could I use a generator when at the shack? I don't even know what voltage these things are and guessing some converter would have to be in between to convert to dc and correct voltage. I'm guessing the amperage would be the main concern and could exceed my current generator. Any positive input would be appreciated to help me understand. I have one reserved and will have to decide soon before it turns into an order.
Ron
Ron
#1207
Senior Member
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You could charge it from a generator. But it's going to have to be a pretty good sized generator and getting it to 100% will take a long time, even with the size of the standard range battery.
If you don't have electricity where you're going and the extended range is just enough for a one way trip, I don't think the electric is for you.
If you don't have electricity where you're going and the extended range is just enough for a one way trip, I don't think the electric is for you.
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RonKleve (08-02-2021)
#1208
Senior Member
you might be able to find a commercial charging station much closer to the hunting location at a store or something. Stop and get supplies at that location or walking distance while it charges. Might have to take a different than normal route to make it happen. Think a little. Even a smaller generator that you may use at the camp for a few hours a night can add up the mileage over several days. Even if you need to stop at a commercial charge station on the way home while getting a meal would add enough. Just have to plan a little more to make it work.
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RonKleve (08-02-2021)
#1209
Senior Member
You'll want to think more than twice about doing this.
First - do you hunt during the winter? Cold temperatures and EV batteries aren't good friends. While the expected range is up to 300 miles, if you're driving that in the winter expect a 40% decrease, i.e. 180 miles. Sure, if you keep it in a garage at home, and precondition on a 240 circuit you may do better, you will still have a decreased range.
If you get the the trim with the included mobile charger, and your generator has a 240 outlet, and it can put out 40 amps for 19 hours, straight, you MAY be able to charge the truck.
As mentioned, you probably want to find DC fast charging within say 50 miles of your destination, and charge up to 80%, then proceed on your drive, and do the same on the way home. Sites like PlugShare show you all chargers, ElectrifyAmerica will shop you where they have high speed chargers. Hint - you won't find them in the middle of nowhere. https://www.electrifyamerica.com/
First - do you hunt during the winter? Cold temperatures and EV batteries aren't good friends. While the expected range is up to 300 miles, if you're driving that in the winter expect a 40% decrease, i.e. 180 miles. Sure, if you keep it in a garage at home, and precondition on a 240 circuit you may do better, you will still have a decreased range.
If you get the the trim with the included mobile charger, and your generator has a 240 outlet, and it can put out 40 amps for 19 hours, straight, you MAY be able to charge the truck.
As mentioned, you probably want to find DC fast charging within say 50 miles of your destination, and charge up to 80%, then proceed on your drive, and do the same on the way home. Sites like PlugShare show you all chargers, ElectrifyAmerica will shop you where they have high speed chargers. Hint - you won't find them in the middle of nowhere. https://www.electrifyamerica.com/
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RonKleve (08-02-2021)
#1210
Senior Member
Since Tesla has announced that they will be opening up their charge network to everyone, you should also consider the Tesla Superchargers. Here's a map. There are a lot of them.
https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bou...tion%20charger
Use the filters at the bottom of the page to just show the superchargers. You can also find them on Google Maps. Just type 'Tesla Supercharger' in the search box.
https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bou...tion%20charger
Use the filters at the bottom of the page to just show the superchargers. You can also find them on Google Maps. Just type 'Tesla Supercharger' in the search box.