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Old 08-05-2021, 06:32 AM
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Like your statement, "Cheap price to pay for free energy." Then it isn't free...and it is going to prove to not be cheap either.
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:19 AM
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Where did this term "Free energy" come from?? Who ever said anything about "free energy"?
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The carbon being emitted wouldn't matter as much because to create the fuel, that carbon has to first be extracted from the environment. The idea being that synthetic fuels be made from surface extracted materials rather than using an oil base. With a synthetic fuel, you also get less carbon during combustion as you can fine tune the molecules a lot more than with condensate extraction.

NOx: you want to reduce the conditions that cause it: high combustion chamber temperatures, lean fuel, too much timing advance... An engine designed to run at a consistent rpm can most effectively dial out those conditions, and this can be achieved by using a CVT.

Keep in mind, however, the goal isn't to make this type of vehicle as perfectly clean as a full electric, but to enable the small percentage of vehicles that need more capability than full electric will be able to provide for awhile to let us get on with life as we need it to be. By the early 2030's I expect most of the US population will be able to get along just fine with electric vehicles only, leaving just those that need to tow something of significant size or weight still requiring an ICE and quick fuel capability. I don't know what kind of numbers that would entail, but I'm betting it's less than 1% of current mid and full size truck and SUV owners.

And of those, most will daily drive on plug-in electric only, so we're talking ICE run time on the order of thousandths or ten-thousandths of a percent Vs. today's use once most vehicles have transitioned to electric.
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Old 08-05-2021, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamingtaco
The carbon being emitted wouldn't matter as much because to create the fuel, that carbon has to first be extracted from the environment. The idea being that synthetic fuels be made from surface extracted materials rather than using an oil base. With a synthetic fuel, you also get less carbon during combustion as you can fine tune the molecules a lot more than with condensate extraction.

NOx: you want to reduce the conditions that cause it: high combustion chamber temperatures, lean fuel, too much timing advance... An engine designed to run at a consistent rpm can most effectively dial out those conditions, and this can be achieved by using a CVT.

Keep in mind, however, the goal isn't to make this type of vehicle as perfectly clean as a full electric, but to enable the small percentage of vehicles that need more capability than full electric will be able to provide for awhile to let us get on with life as we need it to be. By the early 2030's I expect most of the US population will be able to get along just fine with electric vehicles only, leaving just those that need to tow something of significant size or weight still requiring an ICE and quick fuel capability. I don't know what kind of numbers that would entail, but I'm betting it's less than 1% of current mid and full size truck and SUV owners.

And of those, most will daily drive on plug-in electric only, so we're talking ICE run time on the order of thousandths or ten-thousandths of a percent Vs. today's use once most vehicles have transitioned to electric.
Sounds good, but there's no way we scale battery production to that level that quickly...to make no mention of how many vehicles being build now/in the next couple years, won't be scrapped at 10 years old so even if and when we hit the majority of vehicle production being full EV, it will still take awhile to phase out the huge number of existing ICE vehicles
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I've started my changeover to electric vehicles. Bought this electric golf cart recently. 😉😂



​​​​​​At this point, i actually think I've bought my last ICE vehicle. Assuming I'm still able to drive (over 70) when I'm ready for something new, I'll go fully electric. I'm going to have an electrician get my 220 hooked up in the garage at some point soon.
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I've started my changeover to electric vehicles. Bought this electric golf cart recently. 😉😂.
Do I see cupholders for the back seat??
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Do I see cupholders for the back seat??
Yes, you do! More cup holders than seats. 4 in the front and the 2 out back. Cooler under the rear seat. I bought it to keep at the marina. Not really trying to use it for transportation. It is street legal. Horn, headlights, turn signals 4 ways.

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Yes, you do! More cup holders than seats. 4 in the front and the 2 out back. Cooler under the rear seat. I bought it to keep at the marina. Not really trying to use it for transportation. It is street legal. Horn, headlights, turn signals 4 ways.
That thing is sweet! Flames will get you 5mph and I think an SS stripe down the middle is good for 5 torque. The rims and tires are cool as Hell.
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I'm surprised nobody has brought up Hydrogen.

Toyota hasn't given up on it, yet. I don't see it going that direction but you never know. At least at this point.

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So many make light of the Range these EVs are suppose to have, in cold climates the "stated range" will be less (often a lot less), the Average Miles driven per year in the US varies a lot by state, Wyoming the AVERAGE 22,000 miles per year, Georgia AVERAGE is 19,000, as is Oklahoma, remember this is Average, men drive more than 50% more than females, many retired people drive very little, etc. The Average doesn't mean that much, if you are a male, with a job, as the type of yearly miles you will drive will tend (in most cases) to be far more than the Average, add the cold climate etc. and the "range" becomes very important. Sure, if you live in a cramped city, lots of charging stations, and your state produces enough power to handle the load (NOT by buying power generated from outside your state), and there are plenty of charging stations, a million cars getting charged at the same time, let's say in CA starting at 6:00pm could be a problem. Now, of course, in CA they'll have it all figured out, look at the new bullet train, under budget, and ahead of schedule! Not everyone is as fortunate as those super smart folks.
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