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Old 08-08-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pawprint
Again that public school is showing through!!!!! Again, you fail to take into consideration TOTAL POPULATION!!! Hahahahahaha, I guess things are as bad as I thought....sad.
Per Capita accounts for total population.

That's what per capita is.

Spreading fake news with no sources and calling people names instead of admitting you are wrong isn't helping your cause bro
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Old 08-08-2021, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jkoravos
There were less than 2M EVs on the road in the US last year and 295,000 new EVs sold. It's going to take a while to get to 24 million. Also, what is your source for that limit?
PNNL (Pacific Northwest National Labs), hope this helps, spend a couple of seconds and look it up.
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My source:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rebecca...h=40d9f9381aad

"The biggest? Naturally Texas, where residents consumed a whopping 13 quadrillion BTUs in 2015. On a per capita basis, the state only ranks sixth."


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24 Million EVs are the MAX number the grid could handle now,
Source please

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There is a plan to deal with nuclear "waste",
Link to plan?
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Originally Posted by pawprint
PNNL (Pacific Northwest National Labs), hope this helps, spend a couple of seconds and look it up.
Thank you for admitting you don't have a source for your claim that we need to sell 20 million more EV's this year before electrical supply is a problem.

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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Per Capita accounts for total population.

That's what per capita is.
WAIT, WUT?

I thought Per Capita was the lady that got a gold medal on Thursday for high jump!
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Originally Posted by pawprint
PNNL (Pacific Northwest National Labs), hope this helps, spend a couple of seconds and look it up.

I did. Here's a link for others.

https://www.pnnl.gov/sites/default/f...ACTS_final.pdf

Did you notice the part where they said the limit raises to 65M with managed charging without any charges to the current grid capacity?

​​​​​​​Major Findings
2028 resource adequacy is likely to be sufficient for high EV penetration assumption.
Under a high-penetration scenario with national electric fleets of ~24 million LDVs, 200,000 MDVs, 150,000 HDVs for a 2028 time frame, we are not expecting resource adequacy issues in the WECC under normal operating conditions (normal system, weather, and water conditions). The corresponding electric fleet sizes for the WECC footprint are 9 million LDVs, 70,000 MDVs and 94 HDV charging stations.

EV resource adequacy can be doubled with managed charging strategies.
The EV resource adequacy for the entire WECC interconnection was estimated for a likely unmanaged charging scenario under which most LDVs were charging at home starting in the evening (Home High power No Delay: HHND). Unmanaged charging is predicated on arrival time at home in the evening, when we assumed that the charging process begins. The vi maximum number of LDVs when projected to the national fleet was about 30 million (national value) or 9 million for the WECC footprint. Alternatively, if managed charging was applied by hypothesizing a price-minimization scheme, the EV resource adequacy could be expanded to 65 million (national fleet number) or 19.6 million for the WECC. This suggests a significant opportunity to substitute additional generation and transmission requirements with smart charging strategies and much better utilization of the existing grid.
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Originally Posted by pawprint
PNNL (Pacific Northwest National Labs), hope this helps, spend a couple of seconds and look it up.
Well, actually

PNNL says, and I quote

https://www.pnnl.gov/sites/default/f...ACTS_final.pdf

"Major Findings 2028 resource adequacy is likely to be sufficient for high EV penetration assumption. • Under a high-penetration scenario with national electric fleets of ~24 million LDVs, 200,000 MDVs, 150,000 HDVs for a 2028 time frame, we are not expecting resource adequacy issues in the WECC under normal operating conditions"


Thank you for pointing me to a source that says we will have enough electrical generation to support huge numbers of future EV's



But wait, there's more!

"EV resource adequacy can be doubled with managed charging strategies. The EV resource adequacy for the entire WECC interconnection was estimated for a likely unmanaged charging scenario under which most LDVs were charging at home starting in the evening (Home High power No Delay: HHND). Unmanaged charging is predicated on arrival time at home in the evening, when we assumed that the charging process begins. The vi maximum number of LDVs when projected to the national fleet was about 30 million (national value) or 9 million for the WECC footprint. Alternatively, if managed charging was applied by hypothesizing a price-minimization scheme, the EV resource adequacy could be expanded to 65 million (national fleet number) or 19.6 million for the WECC."


There you have it, a simple process and merely 7 years from now they say we can support 65 million EVs when we only have 1.8 million right now.

It's time to crank out epic numbers of EVs, according to your claims.

Let's get on it!
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Haha! I beat you to it!
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Well, I've had two cups of coffee now, Mr. Paw has posted 10 more times, and I still have no clue what point he's trying to make.

Do you like the Lightning or not?
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If you're really worried about cold weather performance you may want to consider the fact that 75% of all new vehicle sales in Norway are EV.
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