F150 Lightning
08-08-2021, 07:05 PM
#1281
Dielectrically 5w30
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08-09-2021, 01:30 AM
#1282
Norway really doesn't get that cold in the winter, an average of about 20 degrees above 0. In comparison, In Minnesota, my coworker has an electric car. I think its a 2015 Fiat500, but I am not sure. The overall battery life has been reduced to 80% in normal weather. When it gets cold, say -20 below, the battery life is reduced by half to 40% range for a full charge
08-09-2021, 07:11 AM
#1283
Norway really doesn't get that cold in the winter, an average of about 20 degrees above 0. In comparison, In Minnesota, my coworker has an electric car. I think its a 2015 Fiat500, but I am not sure. The overall battery life has been reduced to 80% in normal weather. When it gets cold, say -20 below, the battery life is reduced by half to 40% range for a full charge
08-09-2021, 10:11 AM
#1284
Senior Member
Minnesota is one of the last places I would want an EV. Did you know that Minneapolis residents live farther north than half of Canadians? Still, a lot of people can get by with ~120 mile range during the coldest parts of winter. Ideally you would plug in while at home (ideally inside a garage!) and heat the car up while it's still plugged in
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The lightning would meet 95% of my needs. But that other 5% enables some of the best family memory making we do. It would definitely affect our travel.
08-09-2021, 10:40 AM
#1285
Senior Member
Sounds good, but there's no way we scale battery production to that level that quickly...to make no mention of how many vehicles being build now/in the next couple years, won't be scrapped at 10 years old so even if and when we hit the majority of vehicle production being full EV, it will still take awhile to phase out the huge number of existing ICE vehicles
So many make light of the Range these EVs are suppose to have, in cold climates the "stated range" will be less (often a lot less), the Average Miles driven per year in the US varies a lot by state, Wyoming the AVERAGE 22,000 miles per year, Georgia AVERAGE is 19,000, as is Oklahoma, remember this is Average, men drive more than 50% more than females, many retired people drive very little, etc. The Average doesn't mean that much, if you are a male, with a job, as the type of yearly miles you will drive will tend (in most cases) to be far more than the Average, add the cold climate etc. and the "range" becomes very important. Sure, if you live in a cramped city, lots of charging stations, and your state produces enough power to handle the load (NOT by buying power generated from outside your state), and there are plenty of charging stations, a million cars getting charged at the same time, let's say in CA starting at 6:00pm could be a problem. Now, of course, in CA they'll have it all figured out, look at the new bullet train, under budget, and ahead of schedule! Not everyone is as fortunate as those super smart folks.
Being in proximity to charging stations isn't going to be a problem for 90% of the population. Even in rural areas a significant chunk of people live within the boundaries of small cities and those small cities are within range of major power production facilities. Even for the 25% of the population living in the least populous region (west of the Mississippi to the west coastal states) a good chunk of the population lives within the western mountain ranges (ample hydro), and most of the remaining lives in the highest average wind region (ample wind power).
The problem we will have won't be access to charge points, it will be building out infrastructure everywhere to meet power delivery requirements.
08-11-2021, 09:17 AM
#1286
Senior Member
Glad to see this thread is still focused on the Lightning and hasn't turned into another pissing match about how the grid can't handle more EV's. Here's an idea: if the Lightning won't work for you, don't buy it.
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08-11-2021, 10:24 AM
#1287
Norway really doesn't get that cold in the winter, an average of about 20 degrees above 0. In comparison, In Minnesota, my coworker has an electric car. I think its a 2015 Fiat500, but I am not sure. The overall battery life has been reduced to 80% in normal weather. When it gets cold, say -20 below, the battery life is reduced by half to 40% range for a full charge
It gets to -40 here where I am in Canada...I'm interested in buying a lightining for my next truck.
Realizing the impact temperature has on batteries, I do plan on parking indoors just as I do now.
There are lots of questions still surrounding the battery usage / life / life expectancy / range / charging factors relating to this new truck.
08-11-2021, 01:12 PM
#1288
Dielectrically 5w30
Modern (relative term for EVs) batteries use heat pumps to somewhat mitigate the capacity issue in extreme temps such as those being talked about.
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greg86z28 (08-12-2021)
08-11-2021, 03:00 PM
#1289
Senior Member
Almost every EV has some kind of thermal management to improve battery performance hot and cold. Battery design and chemistry will improve and make more difference than thermal management.
08-12-2021, 12:53 PM
#1290
paid my 100 bucks -on the wait list
We LOVE our Ford focus all electric. Yeh i only gets 100 miles on a charge but in 3 years we have never come close to running out of juice, (you just stop looking at the ev gauge) we have never missed going to the gas station, we have saved thousands in gas doing all the errands around town and its Quick! zero maintenance,,, We like it so much I just bought a well used F150, Ford must be doing something right. I think the Lightning will be a great addition for us.
Ps we live in PNW cheap hydro power, makes it worth the wait
Ps we live in PNW cheap hydro power, makes it worth the wait