Pioneer74

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I'll be putting my Undercover ArmorFlex from my '21, that originally came off my '18, on my Lightning.

vulnox

@Pioneer74 That would be outstanding! I had already been shopping for them as I read in a review of the car that the lack of front weight made it interesting in the winter.

The stock wheels are 17", not sure of overall tire diameter, I will most likely need to adjust the tire settings in Forscan/at the dealer I assume right? I am still pretty behind on wheel/tire fitment knowledge.

Either way let me know, I definitely want to get her snow tires.

vulnox

It's wild to me that people look at Electric as some political tied option, or woke, or whatever. Some of Ford's first vehicles, over a hundred years ago, were Electric and they were the preferred vehicle because the gas options were so loud/smelly, and there was nowhere to refill (sound familiar?).

The thing that killed EVs back then was the building out of highway infrastructure and the investment in fueling stations which turned gas vehicles into the preferred mode of transportation. But they were simply limited by time and technology back then. If EVs had been given over 100 years of constant high paced development like ICE vehicles eventually received, we would have all the infrastructure and range, probably more, and if someone came along in that world and said "Hey do you want to get a car that runs on gas? They are slower than your EV, louder, require additional maintenance, and instead of leaving your house every day with a full charge, you get to stop for gas on your way to work so you don't run out!"

People would think you are crazy, and rightly so. But because it's what we grew up with and formed our lives around, we think any alternative is strange or more trouble. The reality is aside from long distance road trips, EVs take less time out of your day, every day. Less time on oil changes, less time at gas stations, less need for gas stations every couple miles that could be used for better purposes. No more nasty refineries or drilling, no more huge waste transporting gas all over. Environmental impact of the thousands of gallons of gas spilled every day cumulatively at refill stations. We are just accustomed to all that, so when an EV comes along and someone hears on a road trip they may have to stop more often, it's treated like a plague, but even there it's because people want to look at EVs through the lens of the characteristics of an ICE vehicle. They complain that it may take 40 minutes to fill an EV to full, but essentially zero EV drivers that have had the vehicles for a while fill the EV to full when they stop. They do the 20%-80% (sometimes not even 80%) boost, which takes maybe 20 minutes, and they move on. There are plenty of examples of how good EVs are on Road Trips. Out of Spec motoring channel does cannonball runs with EVs, and just general cross-country runs in Teslas, Mach E, most every EV capable of that kind of trip, and he never has a significant problem and shows how to do it efficiently.

Even then, for now, an ICE vehicle is still quicker for that comparable trip. But that is improving constantly and the gap is narrowing. It has narrowed by a lot in the last ten years, and will narrow significantly more in the next 10.

Pioneer74

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Tires are 195/65/15. They fit in my 2016 with 17" wheels but wouldn't work on my ST with 18" wheels because of the bigger brakes. Your best bet is to go on Tire Rack and build a winter wheel package and see if it let's you select a 15" wheel.

The tires, in my case, were so close I never worried about changing anything. The Focus can store 2 sets of TPMS so they only need to be taught once.

Pioneer74

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Double post

Flamingtaco

Michigan is the only state where a Corvette passed me at 90mph+ on a white highway where I was having trouble staying at the speed limit because Escorts have no weight on the drive axles. Parents were ahead of us in a Taurus with similar all weather tires doing 80. Was my wife's first FWD and I was so glad it was as I don't think the rear tires had 500lbs on them.

My step father drove from Farmington Hills to his job in Dearborn for 20 years in a Mustang GT with BFG Radial T/A's. He'd throw a bag of sand in the trunk for winter and call it good.

Other than frozen slush, the other big issue is depth. When it snows hard, doesn't take long before cars start getting hung up on it.

In Kentucky, our winter activities include:
Leaving work several hours early ahead of a winter storm regardless of the forecast
Hoarding all the milk, bread, and eggs on the way home, because who doesn't like breaded eggs dunked in milk?
Bragging to your office buddies about getting the rear loose negotiating an intersection
Asking everyone at the office if they prefer chicken noodle or tomato soup on those super cold 26ºF days.
Wearing pants again once there have been three hard freezes
Cueing up for gas 'just in case' the forecast for 1.5 inches of snow turns into four feet
Being excited when it's cold enough for ice to form on the inside of your single-pane windows
Ignoring footer depth requirements for decks because what the hells is frost heave?
Slamming the better restaurants on a snowy night, because a big snow means there's no way to make dinner at home, so we've got to ensure there is no way in hell restaurant staff can head home early

I can go on, because I've spent winters in Northern Minnesota and think all of this is funny as hell.

tom231

I assume the "Pro" is a basic, stripped down version meant for work?

Pioneer74

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Yes. Lowest options geared toward contractors. Still nicely equipped. Interior reminded me of my Lariat, just with vinyl seats and a rubber floor.

idrive

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I'm excited. Not wishing time away but I can't wait to put mine in the garage. Everything is pre wired (dedicated 80 amp circuit) just waiting.

2023/4 seems so far away...

USMMA

Thanks! I think the XLT has everything I need, but we’ll see when the time comes.