F150 Lightning
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#183
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Read the link, its accounted for. Even so, the idea is just to give an idea for the area needed. If everyone throws it on their roof, no space is taken up, and the transmission losses end up less than with current utilities
I don't really get the current hate for solar, its like printing free money while saving the environment at the same time. I just don't get it
I don't really get the current hate for solar, its like printing free money while saving the environment at the same time. I just don't get it
The attack on the pipeline system should clue us in to servicing the entire nation's electric from a single location being a bad idea. The line shutdown is being mitigated for the time being by local distribution storage capacity. With electric we'd either have to maintain running power plants, at the ready to meet demand, and continuing to build new ones to keep up with consumption, or deal with an instant loss of electric across significant sections of the nation.
Can we stop with the use of the word 'free' when discussing wind, solar and gravity energy production? None of the equipment is produced by volunteers that get materials donated. Even when the government was offering big subsidies that could zero out the up front cost, it's still not free, the government isn't given money to spend, that comes from you.
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7cbreeze (05-11-2021)
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Can we stop with the use of the word 'free' when discussing wind, solar and gravity energy production? None of the equipment is produced by volunteers that get materials donated. Even when the government was offering big subsidies that could zero out the up front cost, it's still not free, the government isn't given money to spend, that comes from you.
But once that equipment is in place, not a penny will be spent on buying the energy needed to be converted into usable electricity. And that is what drives the fossil fuel supporters nuts.
Coal consumption within the electric power sector in the United States fell to 436.52 million short tons in 2020. In the past decade, there has been a marked decline in the use of coal for electricity generation.
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Average cost of coal for the electric power industry in the United States fluctuated over the years, peaking at 46.65 U.S. dollars per ton in 2011. By 2019, figures decreased to 38.7 U.S. dollars per ton.
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I am curious to see how long it would take to fully charge the F 150 Electric Truck and about how much it would cost electricity wise to charge the vehicle if the battery was almost fully discharged. Some estimates from other electric trucks claim 45 minute to one hour charging at a cost of $15.75.. If the truck is able to run 300 miles and your average fuel burn is 15 miles per gallon then that equates to 20 gallons x an average of $2.60 gallon and rising = $52.00..Can anyone chime in on those figures or am I missing something ? Also heard the base price on the Electric Ford 150 is $75,000 . Does anyone know if that's true or speculation ?
But the MME weighs about 4600-4900-#, so it will depend on what the Lightning weighs. If it gets just 1/2 the mileage of the MME, well, how would you like a 50 mpg F150?
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77Ranger460 (05-19-2021)
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So, if you don't like solar, try this. Released today. And, so far, the wind energy being converted to electricity is free.
Hard to beat the price of "free".
Hard to beat the price of "free".
The U.S. Interior Department Tuesday approved the country's first large-scale offshore wind project, a final hurdle that reverses course from the Trump administration and sets the stage for a major shift in the energy landscape.
This "is a significant milestone in our efforts to build a clean and more equitable energy future while addressing the climate emergency," Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland said during a press briefing. She said an expansion of wind energy is critical to President Biden's ambitious climate goals to make the electricity sector carbon-neutral.
The project is expected to produce enough renewable electricity to power 400,000 Massachusetts homes every year, while also saving ratepayers billions of dollars and reducing annual CO2 emissions in the state by about 1.68 million metric tons.
Lars Pedersen, Vineyard Wind's CEO, recently told public radio station WBUR that he expects offshore construction to begin next year, with renewable energy flowing to the grid by the end of 2023.
This "is a significant milestone in our efforts to build a clean and more equitable energy future while addressing the climate emergency," Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland said during a press briefing. She said an expansion of wind energy is critical to President Biden's ambitious climate goals to make the electricity sector carbon-neutral.
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Renewable Energy Capacity Jumped 45% Worldwide In 2020; IEA Sees 'New Normal'
The $2.8 billion project, known as Vineyard Wind 1, will consist of 62 turbines spaced about a mile apart, each standing about 837 feet above the water's surface. Cables buried beneath the ocean floor will connect the power from these turbines with the New England grid onshore.The project is expected to produce enough renewable electricity to power 400,000 Massachusetts homes every year, while also saving ratepayers billions of dollars and reducing annual CO2 emissions in the state by about 1.68 million metric tons.
Lars Pedersen, Vineyard Wind's CEO, recently told public radio station WBUR that he expects offshore construction to begin next year, with renewable energy flowing to the grid by the end of 2023.
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Nothing in Life is free, never has been never will be.. The line is which is more efficient. Really Efficient ,from built energy to disposal of possible recycle of said equipment.. Usually the FREE Label is used to suck in the emotion and throw out facts and logic..
#189
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The $2.8 billion project....Yeah, not free. At the very least there will be increased taxation (theft) and inflation (more theft).
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7cbreeze (05-11-2021)
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