F150 Lightning
#191
Senior Member
The project is expected to produce enough renewable electricity to power 400,000 Massachusetts homes every year....
That covers how many politician's vacation homes? 2? or 3?
That covers how many politician's vacation homes? 2? or 3?
#192
Senior Member
Exactly. Talking about getting energy for free distracts from what we need to know, which is: What is the cost efficiency Vs other technologies? Doesn't matter if solar or wind or dams can generate electricity with nothing but maintenance costs if it still hits me in the pocketbook the same. Some of the population is fooled by that kind of speak, but the rest of us have long had enough with the fake news of free energy for all and want to see some numbers that truly make these technologies worth bugging the **** out of our state representatives to get moving along.
#193
Senior Member
Nothing in Life is free, never has been never will be.. The line is which is more efficient. Really Efficient ,from built energy to disposal of possible recycle of said equipment.. Usually the FREE Label is used to suck in the emotion and throw out facts and logic..
Does a farmer have to pay someone for providing the solar energy to grow his crops? Of course not, because sunlight is free. But yet his crops would not grow without the energy provided to them by sunlight. That sunlight energy is free.
That is the same principle as a wind farm or a solar collector farm. You have to build the equipment, but the energy used to produce the electricity comes from the sun. And that energy from the sun is free. Yes, even wind turbines need the sun to operate. Look it up.
In a single hour, the amount of power from the sun that strikes the Earth is more than the entire world consumes in an year. Each hour 430 quintillion Joules of energy from the sun hits the Earth.
As opposed to burning coal. In a year, we burn 872,000,000,000 pounds of coal to produce electricity. At a cost of about $17,004,000,000. Now that is definitely not free.
And this is nothing new. Remember these? Used for centuries, and propelled by free wind. Surely you are not saying that the farmer paid for the wind?
Sure, the farmer had to pay for and build the windmill. But once it was built, he did not have to pay a penny for the energy that turns it and it would pump water out of the ground 24/7. For free.
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#194
Sorry, guys, but you are missing the point. The energy produced by the sun, and directed at Earth, is free. That is not debatable.
Does a farmer have to pay someone for providing the solar energy to grow his crops? Of course not, because sunlight is free. But yet his crops would not grow without the energy provided to them by sunlight. That sunlight energy is free.
That is the same principle as a wind farm or a solar collector farm. You have to build the equipment, but the energy used to produce the electricity comes from the sun. And that energy from the sun is free. Yes, even wind turbines need the sun to operate. Look it up.
So until someone figures out how to put a meter on the sun, sun energy will be free for as long as the sun shines.
As opposed to burning coal. In a year, we burn 872,000,000,000 pounds of coal to produce electricity. At a cost of about $17,004,000,000. Now that is definitely not free.
And this is nothing new. Remember these? Used for centuries, and propelled by free wind. Surely you are not saying that the farmer paid for the wind?
Sure, the farmer had to pay for and build the windmill. But once it was built, he did not have to pay a penny for the energy that turns it and it would pump water out of the ground 24/7. For free.
Does a farmer have to pay someone for providing the solar energy to grow his crops? Of course not, because sunlight is free. But yet his crops would not grow without the energy provided to them by sunlight. That sunlight energy is free.
That is the same principle as a wind farm or a solar collector farm. You have to build the equipment, but the energy used to produce the electricity comes from the sun. And that energy from the sun is free. Yes, even wind turbines need the sun to operate. Look it up.
So until someone figures out how to put a meter on the sun, sun energy will be free for as long as the sun shines.
As opposed to burning coal. In a year, we burn 872,000,000,000 pounds of coal to produce electricity. At a cost of about $17,004,000,000. Now that is definitely not free.
And this is nothing new. Remember these? Used for centuries, and propelled by free wind. Surely you are not saying that the farmer paid for the wind?
Sure, the farmer had to pay for and build the windmill. But once it was built, he did not have to pay a penny for the energy that turns it and it would pump water out of the ground 24/7. For free.
Nothing is free. If we chose not to put energy into our body all the free Air , becomes a mute point.. I believe that most get the point of Free..lol
#195
Senior Member
We get that. There is no financial incentive to invest personally as the cost of the system doesn't overcome the cost of utilities until close to the EOL of the system. With a huge financial outlay being required to acquire said systems, the vast majority of the country simply cannot afford to personally invest in 'free' energy.
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#196
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Here's the link to the reveal in case it wasn't in another post that I missed. Will show on 19 May at 9:30 P.M. EST 2022 Ford® F-150 Lightning Electric Truck | All-New and All-Electric
#197
Senior Member
Maybe we are getting it wrong. & it will be a Single-Cab, fast pickup AWD(the way the lightning should have been)
either way I am sure it will be;
Cool
Expensive
Late 2022 delivery
either way I am sure it will be;
Cool
Expensive
Late 2022 delivery
#198
Senior Member
Looking forward to it and am very interested. Unfortunately I hear it’s gonna be direct competition to the Hummer EV truck. Stupid high performance luxury barge (Without the off-road bits) so expect a breath under $100,000 tag. Should be the forerunner to future electrification of f150 across the board.
#199
Senior Member
The electric vehicle has been with us for some time. As they say, "What goes around comes around"
https://www.energy.gov/timeline/time...y-electric-car
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...e%20invented.:)
https://www.energy.gov/timeline/time...y-electric-car
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...e%20invented.:)
#200
Senior Member
One thing is certain, the reveal on Wednesday will blow people's minds, both in a good way for some, and a bad way for others.
For instance, I came across this recently. Everyone knows what a Frunk is, right?
So picture a large storage area under the hood, accessible by swinging the front grill open, and pulling out storage bins.
Now one caveat. Ford either made this Patent Application to protect their design for a large storage area under the hood, OR,
to really screw with the heads of GM and Tesla engineers.
What do you think??
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...OR%252BFord%29
For instance, I came across this recently. Everyone knows what a Frunk is, right?
So picture a large storage area under the hood, accessible by swinging the front grill open, and pulling out storage bins.
Now one caveat. Ford either made this Patent Application to protect their design for a large storage area under the hood, OR,
to really screw with the heads of GM and Tesla engineers.
What do you think??
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...OR%252BFord%29