F150 Lightning
#201
Senior Member
Looking forward to it and am very interested. Unfortunately I hear it’s gonna be direct competition to the Hummer EV truck. Stupid high performance luxury barge (Without the off-road bits) so expect a breath under $100,000 tag. Should be the forerunner to future electrification of f150 across the board.
#203
Senior Member
Won't be available until the 2023 model line... that is my take from it.
#204
2.8 billion? Not a bad investment for the electric company...
400,000 homes at a US overall average of $118 a month = $47,200,000 a month revenue. $566,400,000 a year. Pay back in under 5 years...
400,000 homes at a US overall average of $118 a month = $47,200,000 a month revenue. $566,400,000 a year. Pay back in under 5 years...
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#205
Senior Member
2.8 billion? Not a bad investment for the electric company...
400,000 homes at a US overall average of $118 a month = $47,200,000 a month revenue. $566,400,000 a year. Pay back in under 5 years...
400,000 homes at a US overall average of $118 a month = $47,200,000 a month revenue. $566,400,000 a year. Pay back in under 5 years...
No coal to mine, no oil wells to drill 7+ miles down, No natural gas wells to drill 6 miles down. No uranium to mine in open pit mines or conventional mines.
And that is why electric utilities are going into renewables. Because, no matter what people say, that energy is FREE, as long as the sun shines and the wind blows.
As FREE as the energy that warms your swimming pool or your local lake in the summer.
That is not debatable.
#206
Senior Member
Sorry, guys, but you are missing the point. The energy produced by the sun, and directed at Earth, is free. That is not debatable.
Does a farmer have to pay someone for providing the solar energy to grow his crops? Of course not, because sunlight is free. But yet his crops would not grow without the energy provided to them by sunlight. That sunlight energy is free.
That is the same principle as a wind farm or a solar collector farm. You have to build the equipment, but the energy used to produce the electricity comes from the sun. And that energy from the sun is free. Yes, even wind turbines need the sun to operate. Look it up.
So until someone figures out how to put a meter on the sun, sun energy will be free for as long as the sun shines.
As opposed to burning coal. In a year, we burn 872,000,000,000 pounds of coal to produce electricity. At a cost of about $17,004,000,000. Now that is definitely not free.
And this is nothing new. Remember these? Used for centuries, and propelled by free wind. Surely you are not saying that the farmer paid for the wind?
Sure, the farmer had to pay for and build the windmill. But once it was built, he did not have to pay a penny for the energy that turns it and it would pump water out of the ground 24/7. For free.
Does a farmer have to pay someone for providing the solar energy to grow his crops? Of course not, because sunlight is free. But yet his crops would not grow without the energy provided to them by sunlight. That sunlight energy is free.
That is the same principle as a wind farm or a solar collector farm. You have to build the equipment, but the energy used to produce the electricity comes from the sun. And that energy from the sun is free. Yes, even wind turbines need the sun to operate. Look it up.
So until someone figures out how to put a meter on the sun, sun energy will be free for as long as the sun shines.
As opposed to burning coal. In a year, we burn 872,000,000,000 pounds of coal to produce electricity. At a cost of about $17,004,000,000. Now that is definitely not free.
And this is nothing new. Remember these? Used for centuries, and propelled by free wind. Surely you are not saying that the farmer paid for the wind?
Sure, the farmer had to pay for and build the windmill. But once it was built, he did not have to pay a penny for the energy that turns it and it would pump water out of the ground 24/7. For free.
"You can't cover the sun with a finger", but maybe with science and technology yes. According to Forbes , Bill Gates is funding a project that would dim sunlight in order to "cool" the Earth.
#207
Senior Member
One thing is certain, the reveal on Wednesday will blow people's minds, both in a good way for some, and a bad way for others.
For instance, I came across this recently. Everyone knows what a Frunk is, right?
So picture a large storage area under the hood, accessible by swinging the front grill open, and pulling out storage bins.
Now one caveat. Ford either made this Patent Application to protect their design for a large storage area under the hood, OR,
to really screw with the heads of GM and Tesla engineers.
What do you think??
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...OR%252BFord%29
For instance, I came across this recently. Everyone knows what a Frunk is, right?
So picture a large storage area under the hood, accessible by swinging the front grill open, and pulling out storage bins.
Now one caveat. Ford either made this Patent Application to protect their design for a large storage area under the hood, OR,
to really screw with the heads of GM and Tesla engineers.
What do you think??
https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...OR%252BFord%29
I think that Ford likes to patent many designs that never make it to production:
You don't patent things just because you plan to put them into production, you patent things so your competitors can't put into production designs that would prevent you from using your designs, simply for the reason that you didn't patent your design first.
The above design adds a good chunk of weight and ease of use complexity for a slightly cooler tailgate step design. Ford will undoubtedly never use this design, but they don't want Chevrolet to step in with a slight variation that would make this type of tailgate step feasible.
#208
Senior Member
I think that Ford likes to patent many designs that never make it to production:
You don't patent things just because you plan to put them into production, you patent things so your competitors can't put into production designs that would prevent you from using your designs, simply for the reason that you didn't patent your design first.
The above design adds a good chunk of weight and ease of use complexity for a slightly cooler tailgate step design. Ford will undoubtedly never use this design, but they don't want Chevrolet to step in with a slight variation that would make this type of tailgate step feasible.
You don't patent things just because you plan to put them into production, you patent things so your competitors can't put into production designs that would prevent you from using your designs, simply for the reason that you didn't patent your design first.
The above design adds a good chunk of weight and ease of use complexity for a slightly cooler tailgate step design. Ford will undoubtedly never use this design, but they don't want Chevrolet to step in with a slight variation that would make this type of tailgate step feasible.
#210
Senior Member
Question,
A solar panel converts sunlight into electricity instead of the sunlight converting into heat as far as I can gather.
This would mean that if a sizable area were covered in solar panels, the resulting air temperature in that area would be lower, correct?
Is this not the definition of "Man-made" climate change?
A solar panel converts sunlight into electricity instead of the sunlight converting into heat as far as I can gather.
This would mean that if a sizable area were covered in solar panels, the resulting air temperature in that area would be lower, correct?
Is this not the definition of "Man-made" climate change?