F150 Lightning
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It's better equipped than I expected. Someone, I think jokingly, said it may have crank windows and that, because the price gap to XLT is pretty large. It seems pretty close though, although I suspect it's down a lot to interior materials and that. I know there is a big difference in getting the 2.4KW ProPower, but at least in the gas F-150, it's only about $700 to move up to 7.2KW, so I don't think that explains it. Hopefully we will see more detailed comparison.
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King Ranch trim started (way back) as a semi-location specific trim (i.e. popular in the Southwest, then spreading). Even now if you search a location (say zipcodes in Texas versus zipcodes in NE) you would see much more KR in inventory (back when dealers used to have inventory!). My personal opinion, is Ford is starting initial Lightning configs (trims and options) smaller, to make it simpler, and will add/adjust moving forward in future Model Years as demand and customer inputs come.
Given that Ford just now (this year) has announced a KR trim for Explorer, tells me that KR will be around for a long time.
Given that Ford just now (this year) has announced a KR trim for Explorer, tells me that KR will be around for a long time.
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150finallygot1 (05-24-2021)
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There is no Limited trim either.
As another post mentioned, I think they are just initially trying to cover the general spectrum:
Pro, XLT, Lariat, Platinum
as compared to
XL, XLT, Tremor, Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum, Limited
As another post mentioned, I think they are just initially trying to cover the general spectrum:
Pro, XLT, Lariat, Platinum
as compared to
XL, XLT, Tremor, Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum, Limited
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150finallygot1 (05-24-2021)
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They're in dire need of an update. I sat in a neighbor's new Yukon Denali and it's really nice, so apparently GM does know how to make a good interior. I did shop the Silverados/GMC and really like the GMC AT4 exterior, but the interior is totally "blah" at best, and really behind with the tiny screen and lack of tech.
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VectorZ (05-24-2021)
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The US average time at a pump is 4.5 minutes. If you need just 15 minutes at a charger, you still need over 3x the number of charging spots Vs pumps at any given fuel station. Charging stations near restaurants by highways would take a burden from limited fuel station acreage, provide a means to continue to use chargers as they become legacy, and provide an option to always using the fastest charge rate while on the road.
I kind of wonder if we might see the return of the "station attendant." To optimze charging maybe you toss you're keys to the attendant, go in for your pee/coffee/lunch and he/she wrangles various cars through the charging station to optimize throughput.
I've got to imagine (or maybe I'm just hoping) that companies like Sheetz, Circle K, QT, etc., that jazzed up the "grungy gas station with bad food and a bathroom from a horror movie" concept are thinking through some cool stuff.
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Ditto. A while back I purchased a new Tesla with 1.49% financing. With 2% inflation I paid the loan with money worth less than what I borrowed.
Expect 10% inflation the next couple years. Its already 4.8%. "Smart money" is borrowing every penny one can, buying bigger houses now. Get something real now, pay for it later with artificial money.
Expect 10% inflation the next couple years. Its already 4.8%. "Smart money" is borrowing every penny one can, buying bigger houses now. Get something real now, pay for it later with artificial money.
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An EV truck would not fit my needs as we do 1000 miles in a day a few times a year, on occasion pulling a good sized TT. With the TT we go 3/4 in one day then finish the next AM. Now a plug-in hybrid that can tow and haul well might be of interest, problem is that the extra weight of the battery and such might decrease payload.
Your fearsome battery is nothing a little bit of stiffer suspension and bigger brakes can not handle.
Quit worrying about how the solution is reached, look at what is being accomplished. You act as if once you heard "batteries" you know everything there is to know about hybrids. Ford says versions of the PowerBoost can tow 11,000 pounds. Fine. Quit worrying about how it is done and ask how much fuel is required to pull your trailer at the max 65 MPH your trailer tires are rated. That is the real question, whether an EcoBoost, PowerBoost, Lightning, or Powerstroke is going to get you from here to there at lowest cost.
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7cbreeze (05-24-2021)
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The US average time at a pump is 4.5 minutes. If you need just 15 minutes at a charger, you still need over 3x the number of charging spots Vs pumps at any given fuel station. Charging stations near restaurants by highways would take a burden from limited fuel station acreage, provide a means to continue to use chargers as they become legacy, and provide an option to always using the fastest charge rate while on the road.
The EV starts every morning with a "full tank" (or whatever you decide to charge the battery to). The only time it ever needs a "gas station" is when you come near the range of the battery.
So by your own statistics you are wasting 4.5 minutes (Really? You can detour to a gas station in only 5 minutes? Then pump gas for 4.5 minutes? The traffic lights at nearby gas stations take 4 minutes to cycle.) to fill the gas tank when if you had an EV you would be spending an extra 15 seconds each morning, 15 seconds each night, moving the EVSE umbilical 3' toward the EV at night and then 3' away in the morning.
Long 67 second video. After washing my Tesla the last 15 seconds I go into the garage for the charging umbilical and plug it in: Ring Video: Charge Tesla