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Old 05-24-2021, 01:18 PM
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Ditto. A while back I purchased a new Tesla with 1.49% financing. With 2% inflation I paid the loan with money worth less than what I borrowed.

Expect 10% inflation the next couple years. Its already 4.8%. "Smart money" is borrowing every penny one can, buying bigger houses now. Get something real now, pay for it later with artificial money.
Thats works until the money becomes worthless then your debt becomes a liability ,,,Smart money is paying cash for real solid assets , Land , Machinery , and metal to trade with
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Flip Phone people cant be all wrong, since Nokia and I think Motorola are both bringing it back as one of their most popular devices! Just saying!
Those are companies capitalizing on nostalgia... and they're definitely smart phones. No one is going to choose the Gordon Gekko brick.
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In my conversations with municipalities, they're already discussing charging infrastructure for fleet facilities. Every project we build in the private sector realizes they need need more power points. Our multifamily projects are seeing rows of parking dedicated to charging with some target demographics.
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Originally Posted by Chipsky
Those are companies capitalizing on nostalgia... and they're definitely smart phones. No one is going to choose the Gordon Gekko brick.
Not sure what your point is, but whatever you say! I have not read anything about the return to flip phones being a nostalgia thing and desire by companys, but if you say so, you can be right!
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Originally Posted by N4HHE
You are suffering from limited thinking in believing "Gas truck needs gas stations therefore EV truck needs gas stations!"

The EV starts every morning with a "full tank" (or whatever you decide to charge the battery to). The only time it ever needs a "gas station" is when you come near the range of the battery.

So by your own statistics you are wasting 4.5 minutes (Really? You can detour to a gas station in only 5 minutes? Then pump gas for 4.5 minutes? The traffic lights at nearby gas stations take 4 minutes to cycle.) to fill the gas tank when if you had an EV you would be spending an extra 15 seconds each morning, 15 seconds each night, moving the EVSE umbilical 3' toward the EV at night and then 3' away in the morning.

Long 67 second video. After washing my Tesla the last 15 seconds I go into the garage for the charging umbilical and plug it in: Ring Video: Charge Tesla
No, I'm not limited in my thinking, I am specifically discussing the issue of using electric vehicles for long distance trips. There were numerous posts that preceded the one you quoted that were centered wholly on long distance travel.
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Exactly this^

The EV is being produced at it's own plant. Every trim level they offer requires hundreds of parts be available at that location.



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Originally Posted by 7cbreeze
Thats works until the money becomes worthless then your debt becomes a liability ,,,Smart money is paying cash for real solid assets , Land , Machinery , and metal to trade with
The real "smart money" isn't tell us what they're doing, lest we take up room on the beach at their private island and start hogging all the umbrella drinks
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That's a valid point. Never thought about that. I have a 2021 KR on order and am considering cancelling it if Ford is abandoning KR even though I think it's the nicest interior on all their trucks that's available with rapid red.
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Built Ford Tough for commercial customers
Introducing the all-new 2022 F-150 Lightning® Pro – the first-ever all-electric F-Series truck purpose-built for commercial customers; Built Ford Tough, it joins E-Transit in the growing lineup of Ford work-ready electric vehicles, backed by a nationwide network offering EV-certified fleet sales, service and financing, making the transition to zero emissions easy
Any Commercial people on here? Everything you want to know about their Commercial Lightning is right here. Looks like a Ford target market.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...tning-pro.html

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Again, the lightning is a truck for non-truck people or city dwellers. You can't actually tow something across state or to a camping site out of state without some serious pit stops and planning.

Going to Starbucks? Lightning is for you!
Kids to hockey practice? Throw those bags in the back and fire up the lightning!
Going to yoga class and a latte? Yep, lightning!

Towing a boat to something rural about 100 miles away? Get a PB or Ecoboost.
Heavy payload moving a friend out of state? Get a PB or Ecoboost.
Going camping with the family out of state? PB or Ecoboost.
Going hunting? PB or Ecoboost
Going fly-in fishing out of state or Canada? PB or Ecoboost.

If you don't actually need a Truck, get a Lightning. If you actually use a truck as a truck, get anything else besides a lightning.

Change my mind.

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