F150 Lightning
05-27-2021, 04:41 PM
#631
Senior Member
Just like anything else in life, its all preferences. Ford will sell hundreds of thousands of them and many will love them. Others, it simply won't work or they hate the idea.
I just think it's cool that Ford continues to lead the market place in most everything they do.
I just think it's cool that Ford continues to lead the market place in most everything they do.
For "the grid can't handle it " people, a press release today. From the home of capitalism Dow Jones.
U.S. Power Grid Can Likely Handle Rise in Plug-In Cars
3:24 pm ET May 27, 2021 (Dow Jones) PrintBy Dan Molinski
Electric cars may be coming fast and furious, but it's unlikely the U.S. power grid will suddenly find itself overwhelmed by demand from these plug-in vehicles.
The amount of electricity electric cars currently use in the U.S. barely registers a blip, making up well below 1% of the total power load, according to data from S&P Global Platts Analytics.
"And according to our forecast they only grow to about 2.5% of total U.S. loads by end of the decade (2030)," said Manan Ahuja at Platts. "Even though the loads from EV charging pick up thereafter, it only gets to about 13% of total loads by 2050 as per our base case forecast."
Such forecasts for an easily managed, incremental increase in power demand seem to fall short of reality when one looks at recent announcements by car companies that suggest a relentless rush to replace gasoline-powered cars.
Ford Motor Co. said Wednesday it expects 40% of its global sales volume to be fully electric vehicles in less than 10 years. General Motors Co. wants to phase out use of internal-combustion engines altogether by 2035.
05-27-2021, 05:00 PM
#632
Senior Member
They said with the current infrastructure and no improvements they expect a power cell for a full size EV that can take a 100 mile charge in five minutes by 2025. The new Lightning takes about three hours for that with the 80amp "fast" charger that comes with the 300 mile range upgrade or about 20 minutes using a 150kw fast charging station on the road.
Something else that we need to start thinking about... everyone thinks largely of charging a single EV at home. Our home has four cars, two kids in college driving 70+ miles each per day, wife drives 100+. I can almost walk to work, but that's not always the case. What changes might be required for the average home to handle that kind of a load overnight? What changes will need to occur for the infrastructure to handle it?
05-27-2021, 05:40 PM
#633
I am anxiously awaiting our infrastructure's response to the exponential growth of power use
Something else that we need to start thinking about... everyone thinks largely of charging a single EV at home. Our home has four cars, two kids in college driving 70+ miles each per day, wife drives 100+. I can almost walk to work, but that's not always the case. What changes might be required for the average home to handle that kind of a load overnight? What changes will need to occur for the infrastructure to handle it?
Something else that we need to start thinking about... everyone thinks largely of charging a single EV at home. Our home has four cars, two kids in college driving 70+ miles each per day, wife drives 100+. I can almost walk to work, but that's not always the case. What changes might be required for the average home to handle that kind of a load overnight? What changes will need to occur for the infrastructure to handle it?
The beauty of this for those jurisdictions with peak rates is the car/truck can be charged starting in evening after the demand has dropped.
Theres that and the need for many people to now add a 30-40amp circuit into their garages.
05-27-2021, 05:58 PM
#634
I am anxiously awaiting our infrastructure's response to the exponential growth of power use
Something else that we need to start thinking about... everyone thinks largely of charging a single EV at home. Our home has four cars, two kids in college driving 70+ miles each per day, wife drives 100+. I can almost walk to work, but that's not always the case. What changes might be required for the average home to handle that kind of a load overnight? What changes will need to occur for the infrastructure to handle it?
Something else that we need to start thinking about... everyone thinks largely of charging a single EV at home. Our home has four cars, two kids in college driving 70+ miles each per day, wife drives 100+. I can almost walk to work, but that's not always the case. What changes might be required for the average home to handle that kind of a load overnight? What changes will need to occur for the infrastructure to handle it?
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05-27-2021, 06:06 PM
#635
Senior Member
The EVs I have looked at so far have a programmable charge system whereby you plug it in and it doesn't start charging until you've told it to.
The beauty of this for those jurisdictions with peak rates is the car/truck can be charged starting in evening after the demand has dropped.
Theres that and the need for many people to now add a 30-40amp circuit into their garages.
The beauty of this for those jurisdictions with peak rates is the car/truck can be charged starting in evening after the demand has dropped.
Theres that and the need for many people to now add a 30-40amp circuit into their garages.
05-27-2021, 06:17 PM
#636
80 amps???
Maybe the fast chargers at gas stations...not a home charger.
30 amp will charge it up to 300 miles range in 12 hours
50 amp will charge it up to 300 miles in 8 hours.
05-27-2021, 07:51 PM
#638
Senior Member
^ 30amp included. Still need to add the 30 amp breaker of course. ( guessing ? $100-$250 )
I have mine Reserved. But thinking still may go through with it. I drive my truck for work ( haul stuff 150-1000lbs ) never tow, at least neve had too. rarely more than 200-300 miles round trip daily. on average 125-200. Which would be ideal.
Just in the back of my mind;
F150-Ligtning will likely cost me $75K ( Lariat package ) *Full Electric, Front-trunk, no more oil changes or visits to get fuel and up to $7500 off
if I were to go with a F250-Tremor it would be similarly priced *SFA, Off-Road, factory lifted and locking hubs
as well as a F150-3.5 Lariat Hybrid *improved Fuel mileage, generator built in
All there have their own advantages.
I suspect a F150-Tremor when available might be the least expensive for what I am looking, but just 3.5 Eco as well.
(( most factory off-road capable, just under a Raptor ) but no Hybrid and no EV advantages ))
I have mine Reserved. But thinking still may go through with it. I drive my truck for work ( haul stuff 150-1000lbs ) never tow, at least neve had too. rarely more than 200-300 miles round trip daily. on average 125-200. Which would be ideal.
Just in the back of my mind;
F150-Ligtning will likely cost me $75K ( Lariat package ) *Full Electric, Front-trunk, no more oil changes or visits to get fuel and up to $7500 off
if I were to go with a F250-Tremor it would be similarly priced *SFA, Off-Road, factory lifted and locking hubs
as well as a F150-3.5 Lariat Hybrid *improved Fuel mileage, generator built in
All there have their own advantages.
I suspect a F150-Tremor when available might be the least expensive for what I am looking, but just 3.5 Eco as well.
(( most factory off-road capable, just under a Raptor ) but no Hybrid and no EV advantages ))
05-27-2021, 07:56 PM
#639
05-27-2021, 08:01 PM
#640
^ 30amp included. Still need to add the 30 amp breaker of course. ( guessing ? $100-$250 )
I have mine Reserved. But thinking still may go through with it. I drive my truck for work ( haul stuff 150-1000lbs ) never tow, at least neve had too. rarely more than 200-300 miles round trip daily. on average 125-200. Which would be ideal.
Just in the back of my mind;
F150-Ligtning will likely cost me $75K ( Lariat package ) *Full Electric, Front-trunk, no more oil changes or visits to get fuel and up to $7500 off
if I were to go with a F250-Tremor it would be similarly priced *SFA, Off-Road, factory lifted and locking hubs
as well as a F150-3.5 Lariat Hybrid *improved Fuel mileage, generator built in
All there have their own advantages.
I suspect a F150-Tremor when available might be the least expensive for what I am looking, but just 3.5 Eco as well.
(( most factory off-road capable, just under a Raptor ) but no Hybrid and no EV advantages ))
I have mine Reserved. But thinking still may go through with it. I drive my truck for work ( haul stuff 150-1000lbs ) never tow, at least neve had too. rarely more than 200-300 miles round trip daily. on average 125-200. Which would be ideal.
Just in the back of my mind;
F150-Ligtning will likely cost me $75K ( Lariat package ) *Full Electric, Front-trunk, no more oil changes or visits to get fuel and up to $7500 off
if I were to go with a F250-Tremor it would be similarly priced *SFA, Off-Road, factory lifted and locking hubs
as well as a F150-3.5 Lariat Hybrid *improved Fuel mileage, generator built in
All there have their own advantages.
I suspect a F150-Tremor when available might be the least expensive for what I am looking, but just 3.5 Eco as well.
(( most factory off-road capable, just under a Raptor ) but no Hybrid and no EV advantages ))
If you are going to wire in a new circuit you may want to consider the 50amp.
It would give you the ability to charge faster and the cost for the 50amp (48) versus the 30amp is quite trivial.
50amp is what I have running my hot tub. (for example)