F150 Lightning
06-01-2021, 01:25 PM
#711
Your comment reflects ignorance!
You are preaching to US truck owners who have only a fraction of the hydro power that is available in Canada, The US hydro sourced power is less than half of the small input by renewables, and its input is likely to diminish in the U S for ENVIRONMENTAL reasons. Its nearly insignificant in the mix. The actual impact of EVs is that 100% of their power input is derived from fossil fuels. There is no upside in the US for their use despite claims to the contrary. The EV advocates simply don’t understand power sources and carbon impacts because it doesn’t fit their agenda.
You are preaching to US truck owners who have only a fraction of the hydro power that is available in Canada, The US hydro sourced power is less than half of the small input by renewables, and its input is likely to diminish in the U S for ENVIRONMENTAL reasons. Its nearly insignificant in the mix. The actual impact of EVs is that 100% of their power input is derived from fossil fuels. There is no upside in the US for their use despite claims to the contrary. The EV advocates simply don’t understand power sources and carbon impacts because it doesn’t fit their agenda.
06-01-2021, 01:29 PM
#712
We have a plug in hybrid Pacifica minivan that's actually quite good. Goes ~30 miles on pure electric which covers 80% of my wife's driving, and then the gasser spools up for long road trips. We usually go about 1500 miles before filling the gas tank during non-road trip season, but I do worry about the complexity of ICE + Hybrid + The Artist Formerly Known as FCA...
06-01-2021, 01:36 PM
#713
Senior Member
So out of curiosity how long would it take to charge the F150 with a standard 120 volt outlet if one was to go that route
I have also read that Ford has a patent for a gas powered charging system that could be placed in the bed of the truck to provide power should charging station not be readily available
I have also read that Ford has a patent for a gas powered charging system that could be placed in the bed of the truck to provide power should charging station not be readily available
06-01-2021, 02:21 PM
#714
Senior Member
06-01-2021, 02:41 PM
#715
Senior Member
06-01-2021, 02:42 PM
#716
Senior Member
[QUOTE=dave-p;6952954]So out of curiosity how long would it take to charge the F150 with a standard 120 volt outlet if one was to go that route
I have also read that Ford has a patent for a gas powered charging system that could be placed in the bed of the truck to provide power should charging station not be readily available[/QUOTE]
If true, that is hilariously ironic.
I have also read that Ford has a patent for a gas powered charging system that could be placed in the bed of the truck to provide power should charging station not be readily available[/QUOTE]
If true, that is hilariously ironic.
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06-01-2021, 03:02 PM
#717
Senior Member
[QUOTE=Aok2016;6953012]
For sure, that said, a good transition strategy for those that go beyond the design capabilities (insurance if you will) while the truck EV technology matures and goes into mainstrean with long distance abilities in near future.
So out of curiosity how long would it take to charge the F150 with a standard 120 volt outlet if one was to go that route
I have also read that Ford has a patent for a gas powered charging system that could be placed in the bed of the truck to provide power should charging station not be readily available[/QUOTE]
If true, that is hilariously ironic.
I have also read that Ford has a patent for a gas powered charging system that could be placed in the bed of the truck to provide power should charging station not be readily available[/QUOTE]
If true, that is hilariously ironic.
06-01-2021, 09:46 PM
#718
Senior Member
It is annoying to have to repeat things that are absolute facts, but the other side keeps repeating things that are absolutely false.
Such BS like "the grid can't handle BEV's". This is from my Post #645. The provenance is that it is put out by Dow Jones, by way of the Wall Street Journal, owned by Rupert Murdoch. The guy that owns Fox News.
Such BS like "the grid can't handle BEV's". This is from my Post #645. The provenance is that it is put out by Dow Jones, by way of the Wall Street Journal, owned by Rupert Murdoch. The guy that owns Fox News.
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For "the grid can't handle it " people, a press release today. From the home of capitalism Dow Jones.
Quote:
By Dan Molinski
Electric cars may be coming fast and furious, but it's unlikely the U.S. power grid will suddenly find itself overwhelmed by demand from these plug-in vehicles.
The amount of electricity electric cars currently use in the U.S. barely registers a blip, making up well below 1% of the total power load, according to data from S&P Global Platts Analytics.
"And according to our forecast they only grow to about 2.5% of total U.S. loads by end of the decade (2030)," said Manan Ahuja at Platts. "Even though the loads from EV charging pick up thereafter, it only gets to about 13% of total loads by 2050 as per our base case forecast."
Such forecasts for an easily managed, incremental increase in power demand seem to fall short of reality when one looks at recent announcements by car companies that suggest a relentless rush to replace gasoline-powered cars.
Ford Motor Co. said Wednesday it expects 40% of its global sales volume to be fully electric vehicles in less than 10 years. General Motors Co. wants to phase out use of internal-combustion engines altogether by 2035.
As I said in a previous post, the power companies are salivating at the thought that they can sell energy in the middle of the night, when their demand is zilch, and power generation is idle.
For "the grid can't handle it " people, a press release today. From the home of capitalism Dow Jones.
Quote:
U.S. Power Grid Can Likely Handle Rise in Plug-In Cars
3:24 pm ET May 27, 2021 (Dow Jones) PrintBy Dan Molinski
Electric cars may be coming fast and furious, but it's unlikely the U.S. power grid will suddenly find itself overwhelmed by demand from these plug-in vehicles.
The amount of electricity electric cars currently use in the U.S. barely registers a blip, making up well below 1% of the total power load, according to data from S&P Global Platts Analytics.
"And according to our forecast they only grow to about 2.5% of total U.S. loads by end of the decade (2030)," said Manan Ahuja at Platts. "Even though the loads from EV charging pick up thereafter, it only gets to about 13% of total loads by 2050 as per our base case forecast."
Such forecasts for an easily managed, incremental increase in power demand seem to fall short of reality when one looks at recent announcements by car companies that suggest a relentless rush to replace gasoline-powered cars.
Ford Motor Co. said Wednesday it expects 40% of its global sales volume to be fully electric vehicles in less than 10 years. General Motors Co. wants to phase out use of internal-combustion engines altogether by 2035.
As I said in a previous post, the power companies are salivating at the thought that they can sell energy in the middle of the night, when their demand is zilch, and power generation is idle.
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06-01-2021, 09:49 PM
#719
Originally Posted by Slappy McGee;[url=tel:6952950
6952950]We have a plug in hybrid Pacifica minivan that's actually quite good. Goes ~30 miles on pure electric which covers 80% of my wife's driving, and then the gasser spools up for long road trips. We usually go about 1500 miles before filling the gas tank during non-road trip season, but I do worry about the complexity of ICE + Hybrid + The Artist Formerly Known as FCA...
“I have to drive more than 50 kilometres.” Yes that’s why it has a gas engine too.
“You mean you have to put gas in it and charge the battery? What good is that?” Don’t get me started with that one.
And of course:
“It still uses gas so it’s not a green choice. I’m a progressive I don’t want to drive a gas guzzler.”
“It’s a virtue signalling. I’m a conservative I don’t want to drive an electric car.”
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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06-01-2021, 09:54 PM
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