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Old 06-02-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneWolfTrucker
Yeah, I get this. However, I also think you miss the point of the last one. I do not want an EV just to make myself feel better about my "carbon footprint". That's what liberals do. "I am doing my part! I drive an EV." Then pull into their 4 car garage attached to their 4000 sq ft home.

When EVs are practical, affordable, reliable, and have all of the bugs worked out then I MIGHT be willing to give up the sound and feel of an ICE vehicle. MIGHT.
Because a 4,000 sq foot home is, by definition, a bigger impact on the environment than a 3,000 sq foot home? You have heard of things like a net zero house, right? https://www.thisoldhouse.com/jamesto...o-house-reveal

And clearly only those of one political leaning care about the environment, it's without question that others can't also care about the environment?
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They are trying to remove our hydroelectric dams here in the PNW because they aren't "Green Enough" or they interfere with tribal fishing. Forget the fact this is first-class renewable energy. I am a fan of all three methods.

My point was to all the folks in love with EV...where does your power come from to charge your vehicle? It's being generated by our current power grid.

If EV is the future then charge them with energy from solar power. Make it a stand-alone technology. It reminds me of kids who think beef comes from the store. Electricity magically appears to charge my vehicle from this small obelisk in random locations. Sorry if I communicated poorly.
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Old 06-02-2021, 11:34 AM
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As stated, most vehicles are charged, at home, when the power grid has ample excess power.
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Hmmm....I think they are called generators. Generac, Onan, and Honda to mention a few.
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They are already discussing the probability of roving brownouts and blackouts as the current power grid is under attack in the Pacific Northwest.
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Overnight charging would give you up to 24 miles.

For full extended range, charge time of up to 107 hrs(4.46days). So yeah, totally feasible...
You know, if your numbers were true, I would not buy a BEV either.

Luckily, your numbers are total BS. Sorry, but they are. 107 hours? Are you charging it thru a USB port? Get real. Who is lying to you like that?







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Old 06-02-2021, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
You know, if your numbers were true, I would not buy a BEV either.

Luckily, your numbers are total BS. Sorry, but they are. 107 hours? Are you charging it thru a USB port? Get real. Who is lying to you like that?
See my response #737. While 107 hours seems a bit much, the reality is that the F-150 Lightning will charge at around 3 miles per charging hour at 120 volts. 400 mile range / 3 = ... It's not linear, it charges faster between 15/20% and 80%. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...2010%20minutes. Using the wall plug isn't a good strategy.

Unfortunately, you can't take the time it tales for the 240 volt outlet and double it. That gives you 13 miles per charging hour vs. the 3. So when it says 19 hours, you need to multiply that by 4.38. That's 83 hours, or 3.5 days. I said 3-4 days.


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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
You know, if your numbers were true, I would not buy a BEV either.

Luckily, your numbers are total BS. Sorry, but they are. 107 hours? Are you charging it thru a USB port? Get real. Who is lying to you like that?
I think the correct number is somewhere in the middle. Your numbers are for a smaller battery and only 60% charge. Even Ford says 19 hours just for an 85% charge on 240V 32A
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
You know, if your numbers were true, I would not buy a BEV either.

Luckily, your numbers are total BS. Sorry, but they are. 107 hours? Are you charging it thru a USB port? Get real. Who is lying to you like that?
I believe he was responding to the person asking about charging on 120V. Ford's literature says I think 3 miles of range per hour using their 120V charger.
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Originally Posted by Ptoughneigh
I think the correct number is somewhere in the middle. Your numbers are for a smaller battery and only 60% charge. Even Ford says 19 hours just for an 85% charge on 240V 32A
The 120V charger runs at 12A. 1.44kw. That's less than 20% of the 240V/32A rate so 100hrs is not out of line.
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