F150 Lightning
#881
Senior Member
The Frunk is awesome for sure! The cargo/storage possibilities for the Lightning are fantastic. Between the bed, Frunk, and crew cab, holy cow can you pack some gear!
Can't wait to check one out in person!
Can't wait to check one out in person!
#882
Gone Golfin
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I finished building a new house a few months back and the one thing I made sure was set up right was the ability to charge at full capacity. Just wish it would have been possible to do 3 phase....
#883
Ford Truck Lover
#884
Senior Member
So out of curiosity how much will running heat in the Winter and AC in the summer reduce the driving distance on a EV ? two things i could not do with out lol
And are the charging stations universal or are they stickily proprietary?
And are the charging stations universal or are they stickily proprietary?
#885
You can cut roughly 20 miles when using AC.... for the winter I suggest using the Heated Seats for efficiency depending on how the temp is outside. I know for my Model 3 I keep it on Auto Climate roughly 68-72 degrees all year round and see a loss of anywhere between 10-20 miles of range depending on how fast I'm going.
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dave-p (06-10-2021)
#886
Senior Member
AAA found a 41% range reduction at 20F https://newsroom.aaa.com/2019/02/col...vehicle-range/. A Consumer Reports study matches the AAA study.
I studied the Lightning marketing info and haven’t found any representations. I also didn’t find any info on battery temperature heating design elements during charging and operation.
The predictive range reduction is so acute that basic commuting in my climate is a big challenge, if not disqualifier.
I studied the Lightning marketing info and haven’t found any representations. I also didn’t find any info on battery temperature heating design elements during charging and operation.
The predictive range reduction is so acute that basic commuting in my climate is a big challenge, if not disqualifier.
#887
Senior Member
Heated seats and steering wheel are better than turning heat on. On our PHEV that will kick the engine on real quick.
Charging stations are not universal. Tesla's Superchargers for example are proprietary. However, people are working on adapters. As far as other charging stations, you can set any of the software to only select compatible charging stations, so you don't pull up and realize you have an issue.
#888
Charging gets a little wacky. There are 4 different types of plugs in the Americas, and they can each deliver different levels of charge depending on what type of power they're connected to.
J1772 - Everyone can use these (Tesla w/ an adapter), and it's called "Level 2" charging and delivers power from >1kwHr to 11'ish kwHr. For lightning this is probably a 10 hour charge from 0-full. This is what you want in your home, apartment, or business, and what you might use if parked overnight at a hotel
Tesla "Supercharger" - High power DC charging from 50-300 kwHr, Tesla only
Tesla "Destination Charger" - Same plug as above but basically uses J1772 with a different plug, so you can use an adapter for "regular" EVs to use a Tesla destination charger. There is no way that any adapter will work with a supercharger however since there's also a software handshake
CHADEMO - High power DC charging for primarily Japanese EVs (Nissan, Kia). Generally fading towards irrelevance in the US
CCS - High power DC charging from 50-300 kwHr. Uses the J1772 and two extra DC pins below that. Probably 10-30 mins from 0-80% (charging slows dramatically after 80%). This is what you'll use on a long-distance trip.
There are also different networks. Think of these like Exxon vs. Shell, but you can only "pump" at an Exxon station if you have their account. So (with some exceptions) if I have a ChargePoint account I cannot use it at an Electrify America station. This nonsense is slowly being worked out, partially due to network "roaming" agreements and things like Fordpass where they take care of all the nonsense behind the scenes and you can pay just by plugging in your car.
EDIT TO ADD: If you want to check out what chargers near you look like, use the Plugshare app/website and filter out the Tesla stuff.
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#889
Ford Truck Lover
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#890
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